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Felonious Crud

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That is what my heart keeps telling me but the convertible is a much easier sell to Mrs Z

You as well? Mrs Crud has said that a car without a roof but will be a far easier sell next time. In fact, she might even not hate it. So it needs to be a wife-friendly, Le Mans suitable, intercontinental GT which can lift its skirts up and make me feel like a half-decent driver when I'm out on my own. And have no roof. Answers on a postcard.
 

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You as well? Mrs Crud has said that a car without a roof but will be a far easier sell next time. In fact, she might even not hate it. So it needs to be a wife-friendly, Le Mans suitable, intercontinental GT which can lift its skirts up and make me feel like a half-decent driver when I'm out on my own. And have no roof. Answers on a postcard.

So you have just described the GranCab, so off you go and get one
 

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In an attempt to divert the current course of this thread and to post something related to the title, I thought last night's tribute to Colin McRae was excellent. And I think BMWs sales for the M8 have been scuppered when they brought out the Bentley and AM DB11.
 

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The biggest challenge with Maccas, I think, is the service network. Sod all, more or less, in Europe and only one indie (Thorney) here. Add to that the high cost of warranty (although Thorney will sell its own warranty) and the challenge of selling the bugger when the time comes and I reckon if you get into a Macca you better want a keeper. I'd really love one, but can't help but feel that it'd be a bloody nuisance. Still, I shall continue to window shop and watch the prices easing down.

In the meantime, pork and prancing nags are feeling like a more sensible / less stupid route. I've had a cracking time this weekend in a loaner Panamera Turbo. What a bloody weapon! And the active aero spoiler thingy is great to see working in the mirrors.

I hope your man maths calculator has some of the deluxe features. For McLaren input it will require:-

  1. Build quality ignore function
  2. Dealer network ignore
  3. Depreciation ignore
  4. Which model is it, they all look the same function
  5. Extended warranty additional cost ignore function
  6. Does't sound very good, hearing enhancement function
  7. Ignore cost for exhaust to make it sound a little better function
  8. Can't pop to the shops without looking a **** function
  9. Wife already knows you have a small man weapon, now so does everyone else function
  10. Really, a 911 is better in every way function. GTS, GT3, Targa, whatever.

If the device does indeed have these 10 special functions, only available in deluxe versions, then it may well spit out an "accept purchase" message.

I'd still ignore it. But then, it's no secret how bad I think McLaren's build quality is. And I owned a BiTurbo. And a 3200.
 

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In an attempt to divert the current course of this thread and to post something related to the title, I thought last night's tribute to Colin McRae was excellent. And I think BMWs sales for the M8 have been scuppered when they brought out the Bentley and AM DB11.

Shock, horror. Trying to stop thread drift? What kind of moderation is this?

The M8 will sell because BMW will sell you one for £899 a month with £10k down. You can't get a DB11 or Bentley for that. The M8 (which surely is "mate", making it more wanky) will be a phenomenal used buy in about 4 years from now. £25k 25k miles. Yes please.
 

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Shock, horror. Trying to stop thread drift? What kind of moderation is this?

The M8 will sell because BMW will sell you one for £899 a month with £10k down. You can't get a DB11 or Bentley for that. The M8 (which surely is "mate", making it more wanky) will be a phenomenal used buy in about 4 years from now. £25k 25k miles. Yes please.
That's what I said to Mrs MLC last night, good second hand buy. BMW are doing some ridiculous deals right now on 'normal' cars. I still can't believe that they make the 2-series MPV 'thing', depreciates the whole brand IMHO.
 

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In an attempt to divert the current course of this thread and to post something related to the title, I thought last night's tribute to Colin McRae was excellent. And I think BMWs sales for the M8 have been scuppered when they brought out the Bentley and AM DB11.

Agree on all counts. The only bit on Colin was for me that year if Carlos had driven all the rallies he probably wouldn't have won the championship. Because of his injury if gave Colin the opportunity to close the gap. But that's not taking away the brilliance of Colin.....
 

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I hope your man maths calculator has some of the deluxe features. For McLaren input it will require:-

  1. Build quality ignore function
  2. Dealer network ignore
  3. Depreciation ignore
  4. Which model is it, they all look the same function
  5. Extended warranty additional cost ignore function
  6. Does't sound very good, hearing enhancement function
  7. Ignore cost for exhaust to make it sound a little better function
  8. Can't pop to the shops without looking a **** function
  9. Wife already knows you have a small man weapon, now so does everyone else function
  10. Really, a 911 is better in every way function. GTS, GT3, Targa, whatever.
If the device does indeed have these 10 special functions, only available in deluxe versions, then it may well spit out an "accept purchase" message.

I'd still ignore it. But then, it's no secret how bad I think McLaren's build quality is. And I owned a BiTurbo. And a 3200.

How can a man with a V12 Ferrari be so fecking sensible? The world has gone mad. Fact is. I'd like a Macca and I'd feel a tool driving it but will continue to window shop for the same reason I look at girls in windows in Amsterdam but never go in. Mrs Crud has helpfully pointed out that I'd look like a complete cock driving one (a Macca, not girls in Amsterdam, although I suppose her point applies equally well), and she's probably right. The fact is, the car would simply be the icing on the cake. The shortlist must, therefore, be a Cali T, PF (assuming continued depreciation), GranCab (although it's too similar to my ol' GTS and I actually like the idea of shite / no rear seats because I'm not a taxi) or some kind of roofless pork.

How does your deluxe PE-edition man-maths calculator feel about those options?
 

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In an attempt to divert the current course of this thread and to post something related to the title, I thought last night's tribute to Colin McRae was excellent. And I think BMWs sales for the M8 have been scuppered when they brought out the Bentley and AM DB11.

Both points well made, although as much I like the McRae bUt he was one **** of a loose canon in the day
 
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How can a man with a V12 Ferrari be so fecking sensible? The world has gone mad. Fact is. I'd like a Macca and I'd feel a tool driving it but will continue to window shop for the same reason I look at girls in windows in Amsterdam but never go in. Mrs Crud has helpfully pointed out that I'd look like a complete cock driving one (a Macca, not girls in Amsterdam, although I suppose her point applies equally well), and she's probably right. The fact is, the car would simply be the icing on the cake. The shortlist must, therefore, be a Cali T, PF (assuming continued depreciation), GranCab (although it's too similar to my ol' GTS and I actually like the idea of shite / no rear seats because I'm not a taxi) or some kind of roofless pork.

How does your deluxe PE-edition man-maths calculator feel about those options?

It doesn't have a convertible function, that's not available in Scotland. If it did, it would say to wait for PF to be £120k or Cali T to be £85k.
 

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It doesn't have a convertible function, that's not available in Scotland. If it did, it would say to wait for PF to be £120k or Cali T to be £85k.

No convertible function?? Do ye no have hats? Come on, you big soft Scottish jessie, man up.
 

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It would be but Athol is properly having his hair done. He clearly doesn't like it windswept. Or frost-bitten.

No, you misunderstand. The man maths calculator deluxe Scotland edition - also known as Wee Nicola's Budget Balancing Thingamybob - doesn't have a convertible function as this seen as being the provisio of Tory, private school types and their WAGs. ie it's southern softy shite that we Scots can't be doing with. It does have the rare "roofless" function for dealing with the likes of the Ariel Atom which is an officially approved all weather car in Scotland.

Joking aside, i'd seriously consider the Mercedes AMG GTc as an option. I think they are lovely, make a great noise, actually have a useable boot etc and are actually not too madly expensive. It needs to be the "c" version as this has 549bhp where the non-C comes with a paltry 469bhp which simply not enough these days! You're looking at about £80k and up which I don't think is unreasonable in today's market.

There is also a daft version called the R which has a silly spoiler etc and is one step away from an endurance racer. Actually the coupe version of that I really really like.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-se...ad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New#202002117196980

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...location=at_cars&body-type=Convertible&page=1

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...ising-location=at_cars&body-type=Coupe&page=1