Tesla Cybertruck

[Dan!]

I kinda fancy that flat but angled roof with a 200W solar panel integrated. Would probably top up quite nicely if parked accordingly.

Nice idea, but sadly it would only provide 0.2% of the battery capacity in peak conditions.

If you drove 500 miles a week in it you'd get through around 4,680 kWh per year. (a bit more than the average 3 bed semi) You'd need about 18 x 300Wp panels to produce that assuming constant light throughout the year, or 30 X 300Wp to allow it to actually charge it in the winter months, assuming you left it plugged during daylight hours... Every day.

So you can only drive it at night, ok.

Didn't stop me ordering one though

 

[safrane]

Did we pay for the building of petrol stations?

Rather than give customers a refund off a EV, make them VAT except?

Also most current newly purchased hybrids by company car drivers appear to be a way of reducing a tax bill... check out most PIHV charging cables... still in the packet

 

[dunnah01]

Did we pay for the building of petrol stations?

Rather than give customers a refund off a EV, make them VAT except?

Also most current newly purchased hybrids by company car drivers appear to be a way of reducing a tax bill... check out most PIHV charging cables... still in the packet

and tax payers priority to reduce carbon feet should really be on reductions in travel and improvement to mass transit before any consideration of subsidising business users fuel usage

 

[madmanmart]

It’s a no from me.

 

[rockits]

Did we pay for the building of petrol stations?

Rather than give customers a refund off a EV, make them VAT except?

Also most current newly purchased hybrids by company car drivers appear to be a way of reducing a tax bill... check out most PIHV charging cables... still in the packet

The problem is the cost, per.ission required and physical logistics of installing the amount of charge points needed is very high compared to the revenues/profit it would attract.

A petrol station has customers that can come and go quickly so the capacity for custom is great. If you have an electric space it can only generate a maximum amount of revenue in a day even if fully occupied. You just can't make enough money I would expect for it to be obviously interesting to any entrepreneur, investor or business to want to invest.

I parked in an EV space in Belize Village recently (there is only 1!) and the cost to slow charge on 3.6kw was more than the cost to pay and park in the normal parking spaces along the way which were abundant in comparison. I charged for 2 hours and got 8 miles charge which wasn't enough to get me back home again on electric!

Unless the govt do it I don't see any private company wanting to do it unless you employ a model like Tesla. Even then Tesla has burnt billions in cash and will never even likely break or make a profit.

 

[Zep]

The big issue here is that there is no silver bullet.

Batteries are (currently) terrible for the environment because of the extraction of lithium and cobalt, and the upgrade of the network to cater for all these electric cars is. But it negates the energy (and carbon) expended extracting, refining and transporting the petrol or diesel that we put in our existing cars - this carbon footprint is omitted from tailpipe emissions data.

Hydrogen is clean at the tailpipe but it takes a huge amount of energy (dirty or otherwise) to split the hydrogen from the oxygen it is usually attached to. Then you have the same storage, transportation and re-engineering of the existing infrastructure to suit.

Petrol / Diesel issues are well known.

In the end we just choose our poison. As for the Cybertruck, it reminds me of something....

 

[Ryandoc]

I’m sorry but I’d feel like a complete d1ck driving around in that.

it’s god awful

 

[Lavazza]

I'm really conflicted with this stuff.

I think it's wrong to knock the innovation, and it's OK to make mistakes trying...Tesla deliver some good technology and I hear food feedback.

Another perspective is that it's possibly more environmentally sound to keep an old car on the road.

I don't fly, waste food, buy disposable ****, or even have children, so I think on balance I'm pretty environmentally sound. Ultimately, I buy lots of cars to stop other people from driving them!

I wonder how many people are 'trendy lifestyle environmentslists' and who is truly applying a 'whole system' view of their environmental impact.

 

[rockits]

Agreed there is no obvious current silver bullet. The obvious immediate play is to reduce demand/use/waste.

The meat program the other night with Liz Bonnin was a real eye opener. We are really not doing enough and only tickling these massive issues.

 

[Zep]

I’m sorry but I’d feel like a complete d1ck driving around in that.

it’s god awful

Don’t worry, you can’t drive a coffee pot, there’s no steering wheel

 

[rockits]

Another perspective is that it's possibly more environmentally sound to keep an old car on the road.

This for me is a very potentially valid point and one I believe in more as well. There have been a fair bit of research on this and I can well believe it. Re-use and recycle has to often be better than new.

I repair whenever I can rather than replace and we need to sweat all raw material assets as much as we can.

 

[rockits]

Don’t worry, you can’t drive a coffee pot, there’s no steering wheel

Does it need one?

 

[Ryandoc]

Don’t worry, you can’t drive a coffee pot, there’s no steering wheel

Haha, I’m giving the coffee pot credit, it’s actually a nice looking thing.

 

[Dan!]

Don't need a steering wheel... It'll drive itself!

(The Tesla tea pot that is)

 

[allandwf]

The big issue here is that there is no silver bullet.

Batteries are (currently) terrible for the environment because of the extraction of lithium and cobalt, and the upgrade of the network to cater for all these electric cars is. But it negates the energy (and carbon) expended extracting, refining and transporting the petrol or diesel that we put in our existing cars - this carbon footprint is omitted from tailpipe emissions data.

Hydrogen is clean at the tailpipe but it takes a huge amount of energy (dirty or otherwise) to split the hydrogen from the oxygen it is usually attached to. Then you have the same storage, transportation and re-engineering of the existing infrastructure to suit.

Petrol / Diesel issues are well known.

In the end we just choose our poison. As for the Cybertruck, it reminds me of something....

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My coffee will never be the same!

 

[Felonious Crud]

Nearly 6 meters long and over 2 meters wide - that will be hilarious on UK roads.

Have you seen Dan!'s truck..?

 

[Wattie]

Nearly 6 meters long and over 2 meters wide - that will be hilarious on UK roads.

Where are you gonna be able to park that in town?

 

[rockits]

Just park it on top of 3 Geewizz's!

 

[Wanderer]

I'm very green minded and always like to look at new tech and while the tech in this is cool, no way would I be seen driving that POS....

fugly.com

Dead fow.....

 

[Dan!]

Where are you gonna be able to park that in town?

Where ever the **** you want! #rednecklife