Stupid Italian metal... MOT failure - GTS 2009

[Dman666]

Thats not good at all,had the same thing when i purchased mine hope you managed to get her fixed without being to painful

 

[Phil the Brit]

Why are Quattroporte's made out of cheese?

 

[marios kriticos]

Good morning your welcome to call in and I will give you my opinion if it can be repaired or if it’s totally gone .
Also you should consider suspension bush’s at the same time as the wish bone will be off .
I don’t think Bowker will do it.

Marios

 

[rossyl]

Yep 2009 - GTS 4.7S. Left it out of the barn as doing campervan and never put it back, winter ate it up. Did have it treated a few years ago but never thought that they would rot so much, compared to my Insignia of dreams lol.

Who did the treatment?

If they did it properly, they would have spotted issues early, cleaned surface rust and had a long lasting barrier to rot. It should not need to be done every year.

 

[Gazcw]

Why are Quattroporte's made out of cheese?

Excuse me! Thats modellist. I am offended.
If the avatar is anything to go by the gt is no better.

 

[allandwf]

Sorry to hear this, but typical of Italians of the period. Alfa 159s in particular seem to be needing subframes at around 10 years.

 

[Doohickey]

Sorry to hear of your woes. Hope all is well otherwise.

 

[Wanderer]

I always asked my guy to check my subframe and he says it's fine. I'm taking it down soon for some bits, will get it on the ramps and take some pics put my mind at rest.

Anyone any Lancia Beta subframe tales? Engine dropping out on hump-back bridges?

 

[rs48635]

I always asked my guy to check my subframe and he says it's fine. I'm taking it down soon for some bits, will get it on the ramps and take some pics put my mind at rest.

Anyone any Lancia Beta subframe tales? Engine dropping out on hump-back bridges?

I asked a "recommended local guy" to inspect and treat my subframe while doing the MOT. Passed with clean bill of health.

Less than a year later had full subframe removal for repair, all wishbone bushes replaced, oil nut and chassis plates replaced too. Had mine done by sportsitilia but advise OP to choose a good specialist, either maserati or expert rust healers.

 

[Wanderer]

I asked a "recommended local guy" to inspect and treat my subframe while doing the MOT. Passed with clean bill of health.

Less than a year later had full subframe removal for repair, all wishbone bushes replaced, oil nut and chassis plates replaced too. Had mine done by sportsitilia but advise OP to choose a good specialist, either maserati or expert rust healers.

Don't think my car is worth it TBH. I'll look myself, give it a good whack with a hammer.

Faced withe a decision to register it in BE/LU with new lights etc, not sure even that's worth it unless it's to run it down. Feel sad about it but with so much change going on at the moment the last think I want is farting about with cars.....

 

[bigbob]

So Im still alive and not been doing much due to Covid and before that was still doing Pendle Powerfest but not really going to many shows... anyway passed my 50th few months ago and been looking at a nice day to day runner to replace the Insignia of dreams and thought better get the GTS on the road..... hmmm the winter wasn't kind.

So it needs a front subframe !!!! awaiting a price but feel I may be passing out and looking at the threads, welding it isn't a choice as it's probably rotted all over the place.

Needs new chassis plates on both sides. (Is this what the part is called? Located both sides middle of the door area under and attaches to subframe - Flat metal plates)

Front springs snapped on both sides
Rear springs corroding

Failed emissions on lambda on the second run - assume one sensor needed or could it just be because stood for a year without moving

2 New front tyres (had 4 wheel alignment done as well aarrgh scrubbed on inners)

Also needs the on/off solenoids for exhaust and new alarm and major service (Needs also the rocker cover seal replacing as dripping oil)

Apart from that, all is good.. !!! Let's play a game of how much to keep her on the road

Few Questions:

Parts - the best place to source to get an idea on prices?
Subframe - assume not wise getting one from a breaker?

Fitting - so garage said can do subframe without removing the engine, waiting to get a quote. I would normally go to Marios but thats 70 minutes away and I also need to get someone to collect me and same other way round, any places in Lancashire that have opened up that can be recommended ?


Had my eye on Ghibli as a runner but now I think the Panamera is ahead, Alfa Romeo Guilia and followed by Audi RS4 or a tractor !!!

Feel for you. Tyres well fine it's a car, exhaust lubricate and pull of the mechanism with some string, emissions fill up with Super unleaded and redline it when warm. Springs are cheap, people say the chassis plates are the same and as for the sub frame pay to have the car transported somewhere that knows what they are doing as others have said. They can do a full service too. Mind if that place also does an MOT then you drive it there.

I guess you have to decide whether to spend x and then sell it or spend 2x but keep it another few years.

 

[Gp79]

Not good, had the same problem on my GS at 11 years old, hole poked in front subframe.
You’re definitely not alone.
I took the DIY route as it’s not that hard, didn’t want to spend half the value of the car, wanted to refresh more than just the subframe and quite enjoyed doing it.
Before I replaced the subframe I had it repaired / welded so the car could be used over the summer, then did the job over a few weeks in the winter.
Keep us posted.