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[Felonious Crud]

In a strange perverse twist this has just been posted tonight.

Is that Tony Callamita, Ferrari-driving, NFT-investing, dubious advisor-recruiting, former CEO of the shitshow that was Love Hemp?

By any chance?

 

[dgmx5]

Is that Tony Callamita, Ferrari-driving, NFT-investing, dubious advisor-recruiting, former CEO of the shitshow that was Love Hemp?

By any chance?

 

[dgmx5]

Is that Tony Callamita, Ferrari-driving, NFT-investing, dubious advisor-recruiting, former CEO of the shitshow that was Love Hemp?

By any chance?

Broadly correct, Calamita is no longer understood to be driving a Ferrari, does anyone truly invest in NFTs rather than speculate, and he remains the CEO of the shitshow that is still Love Hemp until somebody pulls the plug and puts shareholders out of their misery. I make no comment on the probity of any advisors.

 

[philw696]

For me and the 221 others that got sucked into the chaos of carbon credits we've been using a firm of solicitors on a no win no fee basis and they have been good but at a cost fees and vat for me in December £31,500.
The advisor that got me into this mess was basically just a mortgage advisor who could do the impossible for me when I was playing with buy to let properties but he shouldn't have gone anywhere near my pension and obviously would have got a nice brown envelope and hasn't been charged with anything and still giving mortgage advice in Weston super Mare.
We need the Rant thread back.
Just be careful and trust no one is my advice now.

 

[lozcb]

For me and the 221 others that got sucked into the chaos of carbon credits we've been using a firm of solicitors on a no win no fee basis and they have been good but at a cost fees and vat for me in December £31,500.
The advisor that got me into this mess was basically just a mortgage advisor who could do the impossible for me when I was playing with buy to let properties but he shouldn't have gone anywhere near my pension and obviously would have got a nice brown envelope and hasn't been charged with anything and still giving mortgage advice in Weston super Mare.
We need the Rant thread back.
Just be careful and trust no one is my advice now.

Harold Wilson once said the pound in your pocket is yours ..the rest is mine

 

[philw696]

Harold Wilson once said the pound in your pocket is yours ..the rest is mine

For many years being self employed in the UK and people wanting to pay in cash all the ones that went in my pocket were mine I only ever banked cheques.
My cash all went back into the local economy though.

 

[lozcb]

For many years being self employed in the UK and people wanting to pay in cash all the ones that went in my pocket were mine I only ever banked cheques.
My cash all went back into the local economy though.

Me too Phil , I would always make sure 1 or 2 jobs each month were cash ,especially in the days when Moben or MFI would pay within 90 days ................thats how I justified in my mind ......even in the eighties it wasnt unusual for me to be £20k-£30k overdrawn each month ..............running a dozen or so installation teams it soon built up

 

[rockits]

Is that Tony Callamita, Ferrari-driving, NFT-investing, dubious advisor-recruiting, former CEO of the shitshow that was Love Hemp?

By any chance?

That is the one.....except not former CEO. Still very much alive, well and still the current CEO and ED on the BOD.

Not seen or heard much from him recently though so presuming he is alive and well of course.

 

[MarkMas]

For many years being self employed in the UK and people wanting to pay in cash all the ones that went in my pocket were mine I only ever banked cheques.
My cash all went back into the local economy though.

Me too Phil , I would always make sure 1 or 2 jobs each month were cash ,especially in the days when Moben or MFI would pay within 90 days ................thats how I justified in my mind ......even in the eighties it wasnt unusual for me to be £20k-£30k overdrawn each month ..............running a dozen or so installation teams it soon built up

Oh, so that's why my PAYE taxes were so high. Thanks, guys.

 

[lozcb]

For me and the 221 others that got sucked into the chaos of carbon credits we've been using a firm of solicitors on a no win no fee basis and they have been good but at a cost fees and vat for me in December £31,500.
The advisor that got me into this mess was basically just a mortgage advisor who could do the impossible for me when I was playing with buy to let properties but he shouldn't have gone anywhere near my pension and obviously would have got a nice brown envelope and hasn't been charged with anything and still giving mortgage advice in Weston super Mare.
We need the Rant thread back.
Just be careful and trust no one is my advice now.

Totally agree phil, with successive governments destroying what were to be our pensions those with foresight hedged in our own little ways , this is mine for when the time comes

 

[rockits]

For me and the 221 others that got sucked into the chaos of carbon credits we've been using a firm of solicitors on a no win no fee basis and they have been good but at a cost fees and vat for me in December £31,500.
The advisor that got me into this mess was basically just a mortgage advisor who could do the impossible for me when I was playing with buy to let properties but he shouldn't have gone anywhere near my pension and obviously would have got a nice brown envelope and hasn't been charged with anything and still giving mortgage advice in Weston super Mare.
We need the Rant thread back.
Just be careful and trust no one is my advice now.

Sorry to hear that Phil. As you say trust nobody and you won't be far wrong most of the time.

These people need to be put away for a long time or.their hands chopped off. Until the punishment matches or exceeds the crime it is still attractive for scammers and frauds to peddle their BS to any gullible numpties that believe people are true to their words.

 

[lozcb]

Oh, so that's why my PAYE taxes were so high. Thanks, guys.

You chose to go Paye .................as they say you pay yer money and makes your choice .............its a dog eat dog world out there and about looking after number one .......then you can think about looking after numbers two and three

 

[lozcb]

Oh, so that's why my PAYE taxes were so high. Thanks, guys.

Driving a Maserati your complaint is falling on deaf ears mate

 

[rockits]

Oh, so that's why my PAYE taxes were so high. Thanks, guys.

LOL....I think there is a long long history of corruption and misspent tax payers money much higher up the food chain than anyone here being responsible.

It is an interesting thought in fact about morality within society. I can sleep well at night and look deep in the eyes of any decent honest member of society with ease, zero discomfort and clear conscience. I suspect Phil and Loz are exactly the same and bear no burden of any quilt in this regard.

 

[MarkMas]

I continue to be amazed about so many people who are ‘out and proud’ about dodging taxes. Often justifying this by saying ‘someone else’ should pay more, or ‘someone’ is getting stuff they don’t deserve, or ‘tax money is wasted’, or ‘I’ve paid my share’.

Yet in a very real and practical way this means that someone else does pay more, and someone isn’t getting stuff they do deserve. The bottom line is that for every £1 that someone doesn’t pay, either someone else picks up the slack, or public funding is reduced. I don’t see how you can be proud of not paying tax without also accepting some responsibility for unfixed potholes or NHS waiting lists. Yes, there is waste and corruption, but that is an irrelevant smokescreen for someone who just wants to justify trousering the cash.

And if you want to talk morality, very often these same decent honest members of society, who seek to justify their approach, are incensed if an MP puts a packet of biscuits on expenses, and would go apeshit if someone swiped a fiver out of their pocket.

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

 

[lozcb]

I continue to be amazed about so many people who are ‘out and proud’ about dodging taxes. Often justifying this by saying ‘someone else’ should pay more, or ‘someone’ is getting stuff they don’t deserve, or ‘tax money is wasted’, or ‘I’ve paid my share’.

Yet in a very real and practical way this means that someone else does pay more, and someone isn’t getting stuff they do deserve. The bottom line is that for every £1 that someone doesn’t pay, either someone else picks up the slack, or public funding is reduced. I don’t see how you can be proud of not paying tax without also accepting some responsibility for unfixed potholes or NHS waiting lists. Yes, there is waste and corruption, but that is an irrelevant smokescreen for someone who just wants to justify trousering the cash.

And if you want to talk morality, very often these same decent honest members of society, who seek to justify their approach, are incensed if an MP puts a packet of biscuits on expenses, and would go apeshit if someone swiped a fiver out of their pocket.

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

Head shaking ..... Yeah four legs good , two legs bad

 

[rockits]

I continue to be amazed about so many people who are ‘out and proud’ about dodging taxes. Often justifying this by saying ‘someone else’ should pay more, or ‘someone’ is getting stuff they don’t deserve, or ‘tax money is wasted’, or ‘I’ve paid my share’.

Yet in a very real and practical way this means that someone else does pay more, and someone isn’t getting stuff they do deserve. The bottom line is that for every £1 that someone doesn’t pay, either someone else picks up the slack, or public funding is reduced. I don’t see how you can be proud of not paying tax without also accepting some responsibility for unfixed potholes or NHS waiting lists. Yes, there is waste and corruption, but that is an irrelevant smokescreen for someone who just wants to justify trousering the cash.

And if you want to talk morality, very often these same decent honest members of society, who seek to justify their approach, are incensed if an MP puts a packet of biscuits on expenses, and would go apeshit if someone swiped a fiver out of their pocket.

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

I guess there are vast differences between the various people caught in this plight. You have some that I suspect do it through necessity, some who do it by choice and are 'honest' about it, then the rest. There can be and often are great chasms between each.

I always remember the words that those who can pay more should. Well unless you can choose not to and get away with it of course.

We have huge divisions and too much devicivness in society so unless this is addressed, balanced or resolved to better more equalising levels I think society is quite frankly screwed.

 

[rockits]

I continue to be amazed about so many people who are ‘out and proud’ about dodging taxes. Often justifying this by saying ‘someone else’ should pay more, or ‘someone’ is getting stuff they don’t deserve, or ‘tax money is wasted’, or ‘I’ve paid my share’.

Yet in a very real and practical way this means that someone else does pay more, and someone isn’t getting stuff they do deserve. The bottom line is that for every £1 that someone doesn’t pay, either someone else picks up the slack, or public funding is reduced. I don’t see how you can be proud of not paying tax without also accepting some responsibility for unfixed potholes or NHS waiting lists. Yes, there is waste and corruption, but that is an irrelevant smokescreen for someone who just wants to justify trousering the cash.

And if you want to talk morality, very often these same decent honest members of society, who seek to justify their approach, are incensed if an MP puts a packet of biscuits on expenses, and would go apeshit if someone swiped a fiver out of their pocket.

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

I don't believe the 'smokescreen' is irrelevant. Either the smokescreen doesn't exist and by default is irrelevant or it does exist in any measure and is very much relevent.

 

[CatmanV2]

I continue to be amazed about so many people who are ‘out and proud’ about dodging taxes. Often justifying this by saying ‘someone else’ should pay more, or ‘someone’ is getting stuff they don’t deserve, or ‘tax money is wasted’, or ‘I’ve paid my share’.

Yet in a very real and practical way this means that someone else does pay more, and someone isn’t getting stuff they do deserve. The bottom line is that for every £1 that someone doesn’t pay, either someone else picks up the slack, or public funding is reduced. I don’t see how you can be proud of not paying tax without also accepting some responsibility for unfixed potholes or NHS waiting lists. Yes, there is waste and corruption, but that is an irrelevant smokescreen for someone who just wants to justify trousering the cash.

And if you want to talk morality, very often these same decent honest members of society, who seek to justify their approach, are incensed if an MP puts a packet of biscuits on expenses, and would go apeshit if someone swiped a fiver out of their pocket.

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

Have to agree, I'm afraid.

C

 

[rockits]

I continue to be amazed about so many people who are ‘out and proud’ about dodging taxes. Often justifying this by saying ‘someone else’ should pay more, or ‘someone’ is getting stuff they don’t deserve, or ‘tax money is wasted’, or ‘I’ve paid my share’.

Yet in a very real and practical way this means that someone else does pay more, and someone isn’t getting stuff they do deserve. The bottom line is that for every £1 that someone doesn’t pay, either someone else picks up the slack, or public funding is reduced. I don’t see how you can be proud of not paying tax without also accepting some responsibility for unfixed potholes or NHS waiting lists. Yes, there is waste and corruption, but that is an irrelevant smokescreen for someone who just wants to justify trousering the cash.

And if you want to talk morality, very often these same decent honest members of society, who seek to justify their approach, are incensed if an MP puts a packet of biscuits on expenses, and would go apeshit if someone swiped a fiver out of their pocket.

"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."

When you know this happens at the very top levels of society you shouldn't really be amazed. There is nothing amazing about it really. It has been happening through civilisation for hundred of years. Corruption is nothing new or anything to be amazed about.

Do I agree with it? No, not at all. Should it be eradicated from society? Ideally yes. I've not found utopia yet but happy to keep searching.