Quattroporte/QP 2009 Bose NIT Silverbox: Suspected HDD Failure

After a period of inactivity while the roads were covered in salt here in the UK, my battery was low so I removed it for charging. When I reinstalled the battery my 2009 QP started straight away but now my BOSE system won't boot up. I get the logo screen that comes up for several seconds and then just a blank screen and none of the infotainment functions work. Reading through this thread and on other forums it seems likely my hard drive has failed, and despite several attempts at booting it up I get the same result each time, so presumably the HDD is now dead. As a temporary measure, if I simply remove the hard drive will I get the basic radio and other functions back? Having Radio 4 and the ability to change the clock would be a start! Going on from that, is there somewhere that I can download a disk image file to upload onto a new Toshiba HDD, or could one of you members clone a drive for me?
 
Mister Bridger said:
After a period of inactivity while the roads were covered in salt here in the UK, my battery was low so I removed it for charging. When I reinstalled the battery my 2009 QP started straight away but now my BOSE system won't boot up. I get the logo screen that comes up for several seconds and then just a blank screen and none of the infotainment functions work. Reading through this thread and on other forums it seems likely my hard drive has failed, and despite several attempts at booting it up I get the same result each time, so presumably the HDD is now dead. As a temporary measure, if I simply remove the hard drive will I get the basic radio and other functions back? Having Radio 4 and the ability to change the clock would be a start! Going on from that, is there somewhere that I can download a disk image file to upload onto a new Toshiba HDD, or could one of you members clone a drive for me?
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Either it is your NIT or it could some how be related to the battery.

My local detailer put a ceramic coat on my car, despite me giving him a ctek charger and saying the batteries are fussy, he completely flattened the battery, as he didn't use the ctek and had the doors open for 2 days.

I only had an 80ah to hand but otherwise it was a large diesel battery, was only 2 years old, so I put it in...I was surprised when my NIT refused to come on. Although i thinki only got the logo. I cant fully remember.

My actual battery got a full charge and as it was a good battery when I reinstalled it the NIT worked fine...and 10 months later it's still fine

So it could be related to your low and maybe weak battery...or it could be a coincidence and you have a NIT HDD failure as per this thread
 
strictly said:
Either it is your NIT or it could some how be related to the battery.

My local detailer put a ceramic coat on my car, despite me giving him a ctek charger and saying the batteries are fussy, he completely flattened the battery, as he didn't use the ctek and had the doors open for 2 days.

I only had an 80ah to hand but otherwise it was a large diesel battery, was only 2 years old, so I put it in...I was surprised when my NIT refused to come on. Although i thinki only got the logo. I cant fully remember.

My actual battery got a full charge and as it was a good battery when I reinstalled it the NIT worked fine...and 10 months later it's still fine

So it could be related to your low and maybe weak battery...or it could be a coincidence and you have a NIT HDD failure as per this thread
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The battery is a Yuasa and it's the correct size so I doubt it's the problem. Low battery problems in the past have caused the dash to light up with error messages but this time there were no such problems. Also, I've driven the car a few times since and the NIT still refuses to boot up.
 
Mister Bridger said:
After a period of inactivity while the roads were covered in salt here in the UK, my battery was low so I removed it for charging. When I reinstalled the battery my 2009 QP started straight away but now my BOSE system won't boot up. I get the logo screen that comes up for several seconds and then just a blank screen and none of the infotainment functions work. Reading through this thread and on other forums it seems likely my hard drive has failed, and despite several attempts at booting it up I get the same result each time, so presumably the HDD is now dead. As a temporary measure, if I simply remove the hard drive will I get the basic radio and other functions back? Having Radio 4 and the ability to change the clock would be a start! Going on from that, is there somewhere that I can download a disk image file to upload onto a new Toshiba HDD, or could one of you members clone a drive for me?
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@Keano ... I'm interested in an answer to this also? can anyone help us people who don't understand all this? Can i buy a new hard drive and just put it in, guessing not, so can anyone help with doing whatever needs doing to a new drive for it to work when fitted to the car?
 
Well, here's a strange update. Firstly, thanks to Keano for helping with his instructions and disc image to write onto a new hard disc. While waiting for the new Toshiba HDD to arrive from China, I was driving home from work yesterday and trying to explain to my passenger how I was going to make a clone drive when I accidentally hit one of the keys on the Bose unit and it came to life, after my many earlier attempts to reboot it! Before I turned the engine off I managed to change the clock settings. I took the QP to work again today and tried all options other than my iPod (which I removed earlier in case it was causing an issue), including playing music stored on the hard drive, and everything seemed to work. I can only guess that the vibrations when driving have managed to get it working again. Hopefully this means that I can now clone my own HDD when the new one arrives, which would be great.
 
Mister Bridger said:
Well, here's a strange update. Firstly, thanks to Keano for helping with his instructions and disc image to write onto a new hard disc. While waiting for the new Toshiba HDD to arrive from China, I was driving home from work yesterday and trying to explain to my passenger how I was going to make a clone drive when I accidentally hit one of the keys on the Bose unit and it came to life, after my many earlier attempts to reboot it! Before I turned the engine off I managed to change the clock settings. I took the QP to work again today and tried all options other than my iPod (which I removed earlier in case it was causing an issue), including playing music stored on the hard drive, and everything seemed to work. I can only guess that the vibrations when driving have managed to get it working again. Hopefully this means that I can now clone my own HDD when the new one arrives, which would be great.
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The button you hit wasn't the 'on' button was it? ;) ;):0037:
 
Mister Bridger said:
If only it was that simple :). Believe me, I tried the on/off button many times, including holding it down. No, the button I hit by accident was the 'Nav' button along the bottom.
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Interesting. That was the one button on mine that did not work. I turned off the map view and it never came back. Lost all map data!
 
Mister Bridger said:
Well, here's a strange update. Firstly, thanks to Keano for helping with his instructions and disc image to write onto a new hard disc. While waiting for the new Toshiba HDD to arrive from China, I was driving home from work yesterday and trying to explain to my passenger how I was going to make a clone drive when I accidentally hit one of the keys on the Bose unit and it came to life, after my many earlier attempts to reboot it! Before I turned the engine off I managed to change the clock settings. I took the QP to work again today and tried all options other than my iPod (which I removed earlier in case it was causing an issue), including playing music stored on the hard drive, and everything seemed to work. I can only guess that the vibrations when driving have managed to get it working again. Hopefully this means that I can now clone my own HDD when the new one arrives, which would be great.
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Well there is a stroke of luck, when you do it please can you do a full write on the repair with photos including copying the file, where you bought the hard drive, etc. So that those that follow In your footsteps will know what to do. I'm thinking selfishly of myself when the time comes.

I know there is a heck of alot of information in the 4 pages of this thread, I was just thinking of a simple clear visual (photo) guide if this is easy to do.
 
CatmanV2 said:
I've just done all this at home with my automation stuff. It's too late when it's too late

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Did you use cloning software on a PC to do this, or do you have the hardware to clone these IDE drives directly? If so, what hardware do you use? All of the multi-drive docking stations I've seen only have a mixture of IDE and SATA drives, or SATA alone.
 
Mister Bridger said:
Did you use cloning software on a PC to do this, or do you have the hardware to clone these IDE drives directly? If so, what hardware do you use? All of the multi-drive docking stations I've seen only have a mixture of IDE and SATA drives, or SATA alone.
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Slightly different use case. I have a key component that's now 12 years old and was starting to prey on my mind, and Mrs C would NOT be happy if the heating (amongst other stuff) stopped working. I booted a live Linux image from a USB drive, plugged in a secondary SATA drive (was a 2.5" laptop device) and used the dd command (direct disc)

While this will work in many situations to clone other devices (instead of using the internal drive as the source as I did, you simply use another external device), from memory it won't work on the NIT dives because of the obscure file system, unless you have a custom kernel or additional modules.

There are devices that can do all this internally, but, again, I think the obscure FS is problematic.

My comment was more targeted that having a backup process is too late if it's not there before a failure. Eggs 101 and so on.

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CatmanV2 said:
Slightly different use case. I have a key component that's now 12 years old and was starting to prey on my mind, and Mrs C would NOT be happy if the heating (amongst other stuff) stopped working. I booted a live Linux image from a USB drive, plugged in a secondary SATA drive (was a 2.5" laptop device) and used the dd command (direct disc)

While this will work in many situations to clone other devices (instead of using the internal drive as the source as I did, you simply use another external device), from memory it won't work on the NIT dives because of the obscure file system, unless you have a custom kernel or additional modules.

There are devices that can do all this internally, but, again, I think the obscure FS is problematic.

My comment was more targeted that having a backup process is too late if it's not there before a failure. Eggs 101 and so on.

C
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Thanks for that, I didn't realise you were referring to something other than a Bose NIT drive. I know that HD Guru will do the job (thanks Keano for the information), but there isn't a version that will run on my Mac. I'll have to dig out an old Windows laptop and see if that will work.
 
Mister Bridger said:
Thanks for that, I didn't realise you were referring to something other than a Bose NIT drive. I know that HD Guru will do the job (thanks Keano for the information), but there isn't a version that will run on my Mac. I'll have to dig out an old Windows laptop and see if that will work.
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Virtualbox on OS X? If not, and you're anywhere near, I have an old windows laptop that works. Well did last time I used it

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