QP IV EVO Auto wanted.

Ewan

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RMC said:
Thank you. A little beyond my price expectation.
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Really? That is priced quite low, given the mileage (and assuming it's in good condition). In comparison, a similar one went for £24k earlier in the year, while Nuvola had a nice one up at £40k.
But you can get a QP IV cheaper if you go for an earlier version in V6 format.
That said, there are very few QP IV's left, and even fewer in good condition. So it tends to be a case of buying what's available rather than buying the best of a pool of cars.

Just remembered. There was good looking dark red QP IV for auction at Brightwells in Leominster about a month ago. It might be worth chasing them up to see if it sold, and possibly to whom. There'd be no harm in asking.
 
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As Ewan says good ones are hard to find and tend to priced accordingly for that mileage that doesn't seem high to me (with the usual caveats). I would always think I had been short changed if I settled for a V6 even though there is probably little between them.
 
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Ewan said:
Really? That is priced quite low, given the mileage (and assuming it's in good condition). In comparison, a similar one went for £24k earlier in the year, while Nuvola had a nice one up at £40k.
But you can get a QP IV cheaper if you go for an earlier version in V6 format.
That said, there are very few QP IV's left, and even fewer in good condition. So it tends to be a case of buying what's available rather than buying the best of a pool of cars.

Just remembered. There was good looking dark red QP IV for auction at Brightwells in Leominster about a month ago. It might be worth chasing them up to see if it sold, and possibly to whom. There'd be no harm in asking.
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I would agree with Ewan on this.
It will cost you far more to fix a 'cheap' one than buying an expensive one. Parts are hard to find and expensive, and the skills to implement them few and far between (to do it properly).
 
RMC

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Thank you.

Seems to me £10,000- £13,000 might be a reasonable expectation.

The first car is the wrong colour for me.

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Lot 63 - 2000 Maserati Quattroporte IV Evoluzione

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Ewan

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RMC said:
Thank you.

Seems to me £10,000- £13,000 might be a reasonable expectation.

The first car is the wrong colour for me.

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1524778

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Lot 63 - 2000 Maserati Quattroporte IV Evoluzione

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Indeed - you definitely can get a QP IV at that price.

The green one is mine. Though obviously it's not an EVO, as I specifically wanted the Ottocilindri version, not another EVO (of which I've had three in the past).
The dark red one is the one I mentioned. Good to see it sold.
Both of these were auction purchases, so were bought "blind". Not for the faint hearted when it comes to these cars, as it's quite easy to rack up a bill of over the value of the car. I was perfectly happy to take that risk on mine as wanted that particular car (being the only green Otto in the UK), but I do appreciate that I'm in the minority on that one! Indeed, even though mine had a full and detailed history, going to a well known Maserati specialist every year, it still took quite a lot of work by Emblem to get it properly together.

The advert for the grey one states that all EVO cars were auto. The dealer is wrong. You could buy the EVO in both V6 and V8 formats, and in both cases, in either auto or manual. Indeed, I had a very dark green V8 manual EVO back in the day, from HR Owen. (I also had two dark blue V8 EVO autos.)
The V8 was the more popular, as was the auto gearbox.

I note that the mileages of these 4 cars are around the 70k mark. Twice that of the car advertised at £16k. No big deal, but helps explain the price difference.

So overall, you should be able to get a V8 EVO auto in the low teens. But it may well have quite a high mileage (not necessarily a bad thing), and you may have to get it via an auction (again, not a problem, but definitely a leap of faith). But to buy a lower mileage version, from a dealer, with a warranty and checked over by a specialist, will cost more (and might prove to be a better bet).

Anyway, lovely cars, if a little idiosyncratic. Enjoy the hunt and fingers crossed something crops up.
 
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Ewan said:
Indeed - you definitely can get a QP IV at that price.

The green one is mine. Though obviously it's not an EVO, as I specifically wanted the Ottocilindri version, not another EVO (of which I've had three in the past).
The dark red one is the one I mentioned. Good to see it sold.
Both of these were auction purchases, so were bought "blind". Not for the faint hearted when it comes to these cars, as it's quite easy to rack up a bill of over the value of the car. I was perfectly happy to take that risk on mine as wanted that particular car (being the only green Otto in the UK), but I do appreciate that I'm in the minority on that one! Indeed, even though mine had a full and detailed history, going to a well known Maserati specialist every year, it still took quite a lot of work by Emblem to get it properly together.

The advert for the grey one states that all EVO cars were auto. The dealer is wrong. You could buy the EVO in both V6 and V8 formats, and in both cases, in either auto or manual. Indeed, I had a very dark green V8 manual EVO back in the day, from HR Owen. (I also had two dark blue V8 EVO autos.)
The V8 was the more popular, as was the auto gearbox.

I note that the mileages of these 4 cars are around the 70k mark. Twice that of the car advertised at £16k. No big deal, but helps explain the price difference.

So overall, you should be able to get a V8 EVO auto in the low teens. But it may well have quite a high mileage (not necessarily a bad thing), and you may have to get it via an auction (again, not a problem, but definitely a leap of faith). But to buy a lower mileage version, from a dealer, with a warranty and checked over by a specialist, will cost more (and might prove to be a better bet).

Anyway, lovely cars, if a little idiosyncratic. Enjoy the hunt and fingers crossed something crops up.
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Whats the advantage of it not being an Evo?
 
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Mine was a V8 Evo manual and a great bit of kit it was but it needed quite a bit of TLC which I knew when I bought it cheap but time ran out especially with the move to Ireland so I sold it to Stu.

I would have another one if I was in the UK but currently they are to new to bring into Ireland without picking up a big VRT bill.
 
Ewan

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Whats the advantage of it not being an Evo?
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Better interior - more wood and leather, and less plastic. Plus the (crucial for the era) gold Lassale clock, as opposed to a plastic trident badge and a green digital thing found on the EVO. Also, as I understand it, for many maintenance jobs they are easier to work on.
The Otto (specifically) is also considerably more rare, only being available for a year or so, at a time when the UK had precious few dealers (basically just Meridien Modena). By the time the EVO came out, the weight of Ferrari was added, meaning more exposure, more dealers, and more cars sold. Hence the EVO being the most commonly found version (though still not exactly common, obviously!).
But overall there's very little in it, so very much a case of buyers preference.
 
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Ewan said:
How old does a car have to be to avoid VRT?
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30 years and then VRT drops to a fixed fee of €200 but if the car comes from the UK the revenue factor in VAT which can be anywhere between 9-23% of the purchase price, hence why UK classics are unattractive here at the moment. The VAT charge is currently being challenged by a number of classic clubs so hopefully this will be addressed soon.
 
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