QP/GT front subframes - the truth

[lifes2short]

Imagine how bad some of these cars are that are lift in shipping containers

shipping containers can be very useful for storing valuable equipment and cars if no other option, instant garage, you simply need to get the walls and ceilings professionally sprayed with about 25 to 50mm of polyurethane spray insulation, hey presto you have a completely dry and insulated unit that is far better than any normal garage

 

[madmanmart]

shipping containers can be very useful for storing valuable equipment and cars if no other option, instant garage, you simply need to get the walls and ceilings professionally sprayed with about 25 to 50mm of polyurethane spray insulation, hey presto you have a completely dry and insulated unit that is far better than any normal garage

Yes I’ve got a car in a shipping container and it’s bone dry. It’s just as good now as is was when it went in there 2 years ago.

 

[rockits]

Interesting. Are all shipping containers the same size? Good size to store a vehicle?

I might look into the costs to see if it is more cost effective than a quad wooden garage.

 

[philw696]

When I went to NZ I had a 40 foot container in which I took all my household stuff a 4200 modern Fiat 500 a BMW motorcycle and all my tool collection.
Amazing what you can get in one.

 

[mjheathcote]

strictly speaking regardless of lack of heating you shouldn't really get any damp/condensation problems in a garage/unit if it's been properly built with dpm's, dpc's, and fully insulated

It was, the problem was when I opened the garage door in certain weather conditions condensation would form on all the metal surfaces when the outside air entered the garage. The moist warmer outside air forming condensation on the car being colder.
Never a problem now with the underhouse garage always warmer than a detached garage with no heating, and the outside air when entering being colder.

 

[jasst]

Iv'e just put a dehumidifier in the garage with my GS to see if it makes a difference as is a bit damp in there.

 

[lifes2short]

Interesting. Are all shipping containers the same size? Good size to store a vehicle?

I might look into the costs to see if it is more cost effective than a quad wooden garage.

available in 20ft and 40ft lengths, you can do a lot of things these days with them, roller shutter doors fitted instead of the double doors or in the sides, weld 2 or more together and then cut out sides to create fairly large open areas as offices, double, triple, quadruple garages etc, fit double glazed units, you can clad the outside with timber, plastic if external appearance is also important, crane it in place and away you go, if you're handy with the tools most if not all work can be done yourself

 

[lifes2short]

here's some more

 

[rockits]

Thanks....I'll take a look as that is very interesting. I'd like a quad garage and a new office as well so could be very viable.

Not sure if they would be any better or cheaper than a new wooden structure once the container is insulated and belonged up though.

 

[Bebs]

Further photos from AV Engineering.. third and final coat applied, reassembly starts.
Does look like a very thorough job:

 

[CatmanV2]

Wow!

C

 

[Felonious Crud]

Underside rust is also down to storage/garaging cars in damp garages/units, especially from rising damp/moisture through a concrete base that has no damp proof membrane, better off keeping a motor outside than in a damp enclosed environment

Yes, agreed. A car sat in a poorly ventilated garage will never dry out properly. With some ventilation (outside is extremely well ventilated!) and use, plus decent car and maintenance such as under-body treatments, a car really has little excuse for rusting.

I remember my Dad's 1984 Rover Vitesse - the body-panels were rusting at less than a year old.

 

[Guy]

This is a fascinating and frightening thread! For my 25k mile plus day to day car I have been running V8 7 series BMWs imported from Japan. at 10+years old and typically 50k miles they are like new, including underneath; see photos attached as an example. I bought 6 of them this year and have sold a couple to friends and will sell another couple if anyone interested in cheap luxury motoring.
http://valleycarsandclassics.com/project/bmw-525-touring-underneath/

 

[Felonious Crud]

Not sure if they would be any better or cheaper than a new wooden structure once the container is insulated and belonged up though.

Yeah, I was wondering, Dean. By the time you've hacked it apart, welded, hacked some more, lagged, clad, painted and all the rest it must be as easy to put up a whole new structure in the exact size you want.

edit:
Cost of standard CarTainer®:

• 15ft x 10ft - £3200.00 plus VAT
• 17ft x 10ft - £3750.00 plus VAT
• 20ft x 10ft - £4260.00 plus VAT

 

[StuartW]

Indeed, I went with a bespoke wooden structure earlier in the year which allows for decent ventilation but which still keeps the rain out. It's a tandem which can be a bit of a faff but it fitted the space better. It now has power too, it was a bit gloomy inside when these photos were taken before the lighting arrived!

 

[lifes2short]

Yeah, I was wondering, Dean. By the time you've hacked it apart, welded, hacked some more, lagged, clad, painted and all the rest it must be as easy to put up a whole new structure in the exact size you want.

edit:
Cost of standard CarTainer®:

• 15ft x 10ft - £3200.00 plus VAT
• 17ft x 10ft - £3750.00 plus VAT
• 20ft x 10ft - £4260.00 plus VAT

good A grade used shipping containers are fairly cheap and if you're gonna clad it even cheaper if in a lower grade condition, I've bought several for storage of equipment and plant machinery at £1450 for a 20ft with £180 for delivery or £1600 for a 40ft with £280 for delivery, all grade A units which are normally just single use containers and as new, you don't need any footings or concrete base just levelled blocks on each corner, wouldn't cost much at all to pretty it up especially if you do it yourself, the cheaper way of insulating is simply using polystyrene boards or cavity bats, you don't really need to do the walls if you don't want to, but you must do the ceiling to avoid the steel from condensation

 

[madmanmart]

I paid roughly £1800 plus VAT for a new (one trip) 20ft container.
It’s tight fitting for a Maserati so only ideal really for long term storage.

 

[mjheathcote]

This is a fascinating and frightening thread! For my 25k mile plus day to day car I have been running V8 7 series BMWs imported from Japan. at 10+years old and typically 50k miles they are like new, including underneath; see photos attached as an example. I bought 6 of them this year and have sold a couple to friends and will sell another couple if anyone interested in cheap luxury motoring.
http://valleycarsandclassics.com/project/bmw-525-touring-underneath/

Is that your business?
Lots of interesting cars.

 

[Guy]

Is that your business?
Lots of interesting cars.

No, it's a good friend of mine. He has brought in about 200 cars the past couple of years and helped me bring in my 7s. Some of them look like they have been stored in a museum from the factory! Great fun to drive less digital cars from the 90s and 00s too. Kicked myself fpr not buying a mint SL500 he had last year (look through the sold cars). Current demand strong for '90s Volvos for some reason!

 

[Scaf]

I need to get under my GT and take a look, I was told there was very slight corrosion on the subframe at the last service but I am more worried about what I can’t see.
I will be properly mad if it’s in the condition of some of the cars Matt is posting up, mad enough to drive to back to the factory and through the locked gates - it’s depreciated enough without the helping hand of a rust problem !