PZAS (P-zero appreciation society)

[sionie1]

PZZAC - the P-Zero Zero Appreciation Club?

 

[CatmanV2]

PZAS (pizzazz) sounds better. The Pizzazz Club sounds even better.

With Pineapple?

I thought it was Pzero’s are c r a p ?

Yes. I am rapidly coming to that conclusion. Do I need more irony or sarcasm tags?

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[JMS]

I picked up the irony

 

[rockits]

I'm not a fan at all either. Mainly seems to be the temps that make them poor in the UK more than the wet I think. Soon as I changed the XJ to PS4S from the factory PZero's it was like a different car. With 500bhp through the rear wheels and low temps the XJ needed a health warning on the PZero's.

 

[dem maser]

Every car has different “best tyres” but with P Zeros I find them **** on every car!

took them off my Maserati for Vredesteins back in 2010 and improved vastly
Took them off my BM F30 for Continentals and improved again

took them off my Alfa Giulia for Bridgestones and they handle even better (best car I have owned for handling)

I found the Pirelli’s bad at handling and unpredictable and especially under 10c weather
I won’t have them on another car

 

[DLax69]

It's not just there. After buying one set a few years ago on a car that is No Longer With Us, I vowed "ne'er again!"

 

[Tallman]

My only problem on my QPV is the tramlining - the steering is so light and direct it likes to wander on anything but flat roads. For the rest no complaints, also got them on my X5 (run-flats), but then in South Africa we don’t really get below 5 degrees on a REALLY cold winter’s day. So far on the X5 with huge 315/35 20” no problems in the wet but of course it’s 4x4 and maybe not quite the torque of the QP..

So what are the opinions in the dry/hot weather? With climate change surely you must be getting some of that too now?

 

[zagatoes30]

Nothing wrong with Pirellis as long as the road temp is above 10 degrees, I find them perfect on classics for guaranteeing you won't use in the winter

 

[drellis]

Practically zero adhesion cold

 

[mowlas]

I seem to be the only member of the PZAC/S sarcastic fan club.

I love my current gen PZeros, called PZ4.
Went out at 6am this morning with damp roads and 3 C temperatures. Worked beautifully, no problems whatsoever. They’ve been on the car for 20 months and as good today as when I first got them. And of course in summer, they are ace.

However, most SM members think they are a load of rubbish! Honestly, Pirelli when did it all go so wrong for you?

 

[mowlas]

My only problem on my QPV is the tramlining - the steering is so light and direct it likes to wander on anything but flat roads. For the rest no complaints, also got them on my X5 (run-flats), but then in South Africa we don’t really get below 5 degrees on a REALLY cold winter’s day. So far on the X5 with huge 315/35 20” no problems in the wet but of course it’s 4x4 and maybe not quite the torque of the QP..

So what are the opinions in the dry/hot weather? With climate change surely you must be getting some of that too now?

I had pretty severe tramlining about 2 years ago. Joe Macari Ferrari Maserati did lots of tests, a complete re-alignment but no improvement. Finally we changed all four corners with new Pirelli PZero PZ4s and the car was brilliant after that. Turns out that the two part worns I’d put on were really old (i should have checked the date when I got them).

Not sure if that is your issue, but after alignment and steering bushings are all checked, that could be the cause.

 

[MarkMas]

Yes. Yes it should! Mods! Mods! The screens!

C'mon old timer, you can do it!

 

[MarkMas]

So, do I need to register, or pay a sub or something? Or can I just profess to be a newly converted member that, having driving in the wet and <7 C today think these are ideally suited to the British climate

(And those that know me will testify that I make Morgan Freeman in Driving Miss Daisy look like Max Verstappen on a code brown)

C

Yes, if you really did like PZs, then you should pay the sub of only $8 per month, I will DM my bank details. Also, would you be interested in making me the beneficiary of your life insurance?

 

[Doohickey]

Agree on Pirellis. They were terrible on the Strad with loads of tramlining. New Michelins are night and day better. The Pirellis on my daily Jag are terrible in cold, wet conditions as well.

 

[GeoffCapes]

P-Zero's are brilliant. On smooth dry French roads when the outside temperature is 25 degrees+ The grip levels are phenomenal then.

However, on crappy British roads where, for 90% of the year, they're below 15 degrees and mostly wet, they're not very good at all.

 

[MAF260]

They're great tyres for drifting!

 

[CatmanV2]

C'mon old timer, you can do it!

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Well I never knew that!

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[GeoffCapes]

They're great tyres for drifting!

More for 'snap' drifting! As opposed to progressive drifting. They don't give you much warning that you're about to 'drift'.

 

[Ewan]

Never mind, I’m still joining this club of one! Have never experienced a problem in the wet with these.

I'm with you Mowlas. It's a club of two!

 

[midlifecrisis]

They're great tyres for drifting!

EUREKA! That's it!!! Where we've been going wrong for the last 10+ years.

This forum is running on Pirellis!