New GT owner... with problems :(

Sam McGoo

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Surely your first option is to go back to the dealer? As Catman said above, unless you're in the trade they can't sell you 'trade' so you do have the right to take it back to them to get it sorted.
 

Contigo

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They knew about the issue and deceived, If you are not a trader then you should have been suspicious of why this was sold as a trade sale (I would have been) and therefore talk to them stating there is no way a variator issue has suddenly developed overnight.

Mutter under your breath "Consumer Rights" and gauge their response.
 

Wattie

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They knew about the issue and deceived, If you are not a trader then you should have been suspicious of why this was sold as a trade sale (I would have been) and therefore talk to them stating there is no way a variator issue has suddenly developed overnight.

Mutter under your breath "Consumer Rights" and gauge their response.
Unfortunately not everyone is as clued up as you Contigo. Fortunately he’s stumbled upon you and the forum for advice and guidance which will serve him well.
 

Contigo

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Unfortunately not everyone is as clued up as you Contigo. Fortunately he’s stumbled upon you and the forum for advice and guidance which will serve him well.

I'm not patronising him just making it clear that some obvious deception has gone on here and sometimes it needs to be stated in black and white. All the sucking through teeth earlier in the thread made me chuckle :D
 

lifes2short

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yup, take the motor back and diplomatically tell em what you want to happen and stand your ground, as already mentioned you have rights as clearly you are not "trade", personally speaking i'd want to return the car and money back
 

Gt-tony

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Hi all. Again thanks for the replies. Spoken to the dealer and they're not having it. Words where basically. You got it cheap. Essentially, thanks for the cash, crack on. Well, got some quotes. Anywhere from 4k to near 6k if it is the variators.

I read another post last night from another member. About starting sequence. Said to turn ignition on and let the modules and actuators self calibrate before starting, similar to my bikes. Did this tonight, completely cold engine. Car started with little to no clatter, a small flash of oil pressure light, but literally once. Once running perfectly quiet as should be. Turned off and did this procedure quite a few times and the noise never occurred once.

I didn't get a video as didn't have phone on me.
 

CatmanV2

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Oil pressure light shouldn't flash. Even if you signed an invoice with 'Trade Sale' or similar, it's just not enforceable (unless you are a trader). My advice would be to go legal, you will get your refund.

Unless you really want to spend the money. And then see what other problems you've got.

Unless you got it *very* cheap. Like £4k

Didn't happen to pay any of it on a credit card, did you? If so you could hand the problem over to them.

Best of luck

C
 

Gt-tony

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The reason he did the discount was it needed front discs and pads, a tyre and a service. I said I'll sort that if we can get a discount. He knocked off a couple of grand and we did the deal. At no point at this stage did anyone mention or did I hear the noise. It wasn't until after we'd sorted the paperwork that the valeter pulled the car out and the noise occurred. I questioned it and was told it happens on all of these. Don't worry. Yes, I should dug deeper. But no, I bought with heart instead of head and paid bank transfer so was all mine.

My comment about flaps fluttering is a common issue on many cars where either the intake butterflies self zero (calibrate) and they are out of calibration and the flutter as they try and zero. Also the idle speed control valve actuator does the same thing on many cars as it tries to centre when out of calibration.

Appreciate all the comments I'm not a mechanical idiot but idiot for not digging deeper before buying the car. If I take the car in for the work it makes it an expensive older gt. If I do it myself it's still a fairly well priced one.

The car drives lovely and sounds amazing.
 

Felonious Crud

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Hi Tony,

1. Welcome
2. Congratulations on having impeccable taste
3. Go medieval on that motherfoocker's ar5e.

edit - well, I didn't expect that word to slip past the cuss-nanny.
 
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sionie1

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From what I’ve read you shouldn’t have to
1) take the car elsewhere and get the work done
2) do the work yourself
As others have pointed out, go legal, get your money back then find a better , sorted , car and enjoy the motoring. A call to Trading Standards costs nothing but will lend power to your arguement. Sometimes they are already looking at dealers and want more cases. Or pay the money to get the car sorted, but will you enjoy the car as much knowing it had such a ropey start ? Personally I wouldn’t.
 

CatmanV2

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The reason he did the discount was it needed front discs and pads, a tyre and a service. I said I'll sort that if we can get a discount. He knocked off a couple of grand and we did the deal. At no point at this stage did anyone mention or did I hear the noise. It wasn't until after we'd sorted the paperwork that the valeter pulled the car out and the noise occurred. I questioned it and was told it happens on all of these. Don't worry. Yes, I should dug deeper. But no, I bought with heart instead of head and paid bank transfer so was all mine.

My comment about flaps fluttering is a common issue on many cars where either the intake butterflies self zero (calibrate) and they are out of calibration and the flutter as they try and zero. Also the idle speed control valve actuator does the same thing on many cars as it tries to centre when out of calibration.

Appreciate all the comments I'm not a mechanical idiot but idiot for not digging deeper before buying the car. If I take the car in for the work it makes it an expensive older gt. If I do it myself it's still a fairly well priced one.

The car drives lovely and sounds amazing.

That's pragmatic. I hope you end up happy. I am pretty sure (i.e 99.99%) sure you can't do that bit of work yourself without quite a lot of tools, much more time and a great deal of skill.
I *think* there was one case of someone DIYing it, but I could well be imagining it.

But anyway! Photos! It's mandatory!

Cheers

C
 

Sam McGoo

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Obviously its your decision if you want to put your hand in your pocket for all this, but it is going to work out an expensive car for you and you don't have to.
Tell him you want your money back, he's knowingly sold you a dud. "They all rattle on start up" just proves that.
The sooner you act the better. You will get a full refund as its within 30 days and was obviously there on day one.
 

Oneball

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The reason he did the discount was it needed front discs and pads, a tyre and a service. I said I'll sort that if we can get a discount. He knocked off a couple of grand and we did the deal. At no point at this stage did anyone mention or did I hear the noise. It wasn't until after we'd sorted the paperwork that the valeter pulled the car out and the noise occurred. I questioned it and was told it happens on all of these. Don't worry. Yes, I should dug deeper. But no, I bought with heart instead of head and paid bank transfer so was all mine.

My comment about flaps fluttering is a common issue on many cars where either the intake butterflies self zero (calibrate) and they are out of calibration and the flutter as they try and zero. Also the idle speed control valve actuator does the same thing on many cars as it tries to centre when out of calibration.

Appreciate all the comments I'm not a mechanical idiot but idiot for not digging deeper before buying the car. If I take the car in for the work it makes it an expensive older gt. If I do it myself it's still a fairly well priced one.

The car drives lovely and sounds amazing.

You sound unhappy and I don’t think any amount of repair work is going to rectify that. I’d suggest pushing the dealer harder and see where it gets you, otherwise you’ll regret it and won’t enjoy your car.
 

Ewan

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You can’t do all the work yourself anyway, as some parts need to be sent off for adjustment. But it’s all a moot point. Either the dealer takes the car back and refunds you in full, or they pay to have the engine fixed properly by a suitably qualified mechanic. Why even contemplate letting the dealer off the hook? He took advantage of you (temporarily) and needs to be called to account. Unless, of course, you love the car and are happy to take this on the chin and stump up the additional £4K. Your choice.
 

Zep

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If it’s any consolation, you aren’t the first (or probably the last) to get done over with the “they all do that” line. You are in a strong position, so take Mr Crud’s advice. Just this once.
 

GeoffCapes

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Go back to the dealer, quote the sale of goods act 2015, October revision.
Tel them, that they have sold a faulty car to you and that you want your money back.

Tell them if you don't get it Trading Standards have the ability to shut them down and that if they look into it they will see that it has been done before so there is legal precedent.

If the still refuse, go legal. You'll win all day every day.