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jasst

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UlstermanAbroad said:
I very much look forward to the day when I get to meet you guys.
Living as I do, in Bushmills. Home of the oldest whiskey distillery
in the world.
I obviously won't come empty handed! :D
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My uncle used to live there, owned the source of the water course that provides the water, if my memory serves me correctly.
 
CatmanV2

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UlstermanAbroad said:
Sir, if you were here, I would throw down my gauntlet and demand the presence of your second! :mad:
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Chose your glasses sir! I say chose your glasses :D

Actually my experience of Irish whiskey was somewhat poor. On a trip to Dublin a couple of years back that changed :) I can imagine it's rather good, although I am inherently dubious of most of the 'finishes' as it were

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mjheathcote said:
Yes GCSE O levels and CSE's but the high school didn't offer me any O levels to take, just CSE's. The crazy thing was the middle school I was at had three streams in the last year, and I was in the highest stream too.
My Dad just said **** that, and hence I went private from 13-18.
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This is exactly what happened to me, yes I too have experienced state and private education Was at the local secondary modern, suffered from a lot of bullying as I was not the most self assured child, (still like that a bit I feel) and when it came time to decide what O levels, or CSE's you would sit, they only put me down for CSE's, parents were not impressed, and as my grandfather had recently passed, and left them some money, they decided to get me out of there. I went to a very small boarding school, and at first hated it, but soon grew to love it, unfortunately the school went bust just before my O Level year, this meant another move, this time to a local Grammar which also took boarders, and I really did hate that place. As they used a different syllabus I was put down a year, and only managed to pass a couple of O Levels. I was then shipped off to the local college to try and recover some ground, and I did manage to attain a couple more. I still ended up doing what I always wanted, which was to follow my father into agriculture, so academic qualifications were never something I placed great store by, and am a much more practical, than academic person.
 
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dem maser said:
I believe you make it what it is and in my case i let myself and my daughter down by not being able to hold down a job with a career and seem to always go into dead end jobs.
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FWIW (perhaps precisely nothing) I think you're being too hard. Your daughter is (as far as I know) loved, fed and clothed. You are (again as far as I know) a good man. How is this 'letting anyone down' when you see what wankers there are out there?

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CatmanV2 said:
Chose your glasses sir! I say chose your glasses :D

Actually my experience of Irish whiskey was somewhat poor. On a trip to Dublin a couple of years back that changed :) I can imagine it's rather good, although I am inherently dubious of most of the 'finishes' as it were

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Where possible, it ought to be good crystal ;)
I'm not a big fan of Irish whiskey's in general. The blended type I find too rough and the malts, not a patch on many of the Scottish malts. Bushmills has made an effort to grow its market share by following the main trends in demand. But, not to the extent that it damages the brand. As an Ulster Scot, I have to declare my bias ;)
 
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In the UK you make going private sound like it’s the end of your world, almost a mini class war. It’s your choice to spend your money as you wish. Ironically many other decent countries have higher private education participation than the UK, but there doesn’t seem to be as much angst?!?!?

Private education doesn’t guarantee anything, you are not buying a ‘service gurantee’ you’re are simply deciding an education and experience, hopefully it’s well rounded and gives your kids the best chance but not the only avenue. I’m for it but recognise it’s a personal choice not anything more.
 
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Masser50 said:
In the UK you make going private sound like it’s the end of your world, almost a mini class war. It’s your choice to spend your money as you wish. Ironically many other decent countries have higher private education participation than the UK, but there doesn’t seem to be as much angst?!?!?

Private education doesn’t guarantee anything, you are not buying a ‘service gurantee’ you’re are simply deciding an education and experience, hopefully it’s well rounded and gives your kids the best chance but not the only avenue. I’m for it but recognise it’s a personal choice not anything more.
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I suppose it was inevitable with the current maserati lineup being so dull- with nothing in the pipeline to excite us- that most threads now are either political, social or asking for advice about cheap new parts!
 
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Masser50 said:
private education doesn’t guarantee anything, you are not buying a ‘service gurantee’
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I think a lot of people, in the UK, do believe it does though. Maybe mislead, or sales talk from the establishments themselves?
 
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allandwf said:
I think a lot of people, in the UK, do believe it does though. Maybe mislead, or sales talk from the establishments themselves?
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I think it does buy a guarantee if the school is researched properly. They all have a track record. They can show you over the past x years what their pupils have gone onto achieve, the class sizes and sporting facilities etc. It’s up to the child to make the most of the opportunities. They talk **** about the pressure kids are under nowadays- the truth is the percentage of top grades is spiralling up in both secondary and university education. It’s a totally personal decision and no one should criticise another for the decisions they make.
 
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iainw said:
I think it does buy a guarantee if the school is researched properly. They all have a track record. They can show you over the past x years what their pupils have gone onto achieve, the class sizes and sporting facilities etc. It’s up to the child to make the most of the opportunities. They talk **** about the pressure kids are under nowadays- the truth is the percentage of top grades is spiralling up in both secondary and university education. It’s a totally personal decision and no one should criticise another for the decisions they make.
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I agree, and at the end of the day we all want what we feel is the best for our children :)
 
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I think it does for employment, but I think most of us work for ourselves as I do and I have to say my education/degree was worthless, I learned what I make my money on now 'on the job'.

My Kids:

  1. Daughter, no degree, doing very well in e-commerce
  2. Daughter degree, in Events Management, doing well
  3. Son, Degree, very gifted musician, posted his stuff on here, both playing an producing/arranging, and a gamer, made a fair chunk here and there, best something player in Europe, in top six in World in something else, never monetarised it much, bit lazy, like father , like son.
  4. Daughter, went to uni, dropped out, happy to just make a living working in bars and McD's, gifted artist, lacks impetus, but probably the happiest of all us, just goes along and has loads of fun....
  5. Daughter, no degree, didn't want, very driven tho, very clever, like me but not lazy, think she'll do best...
Interesting mix, hope I see them all do well, before the Grim Reaper plays me at conkers and I beat the fooker......
 
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Had to edit cos I posted I'd posted my son's 'Stiff' instead of 'Stuff' Operation Yewtree........
 
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Wanderer said:
I think it does for employment, but I think most of us work for ourselves as I do and I have to say my education/degree was worthless, I learned what I make my money on now 'on the job'.

My Kids:

  1. Daughter, no degree, doing very well in e-commerce
  2. Daughter degree, in Events Management, doing well
  3. Son, Degree, very gifted musician, posted his stuff on here, both playing an producing/arranging, and a gamer, made a fair chunk here and there, best something player in Europe, in top six in World in something else, never monetarised it much, bit lazy, like father , like son.
  4. Daughter, went to uni, dropped out, happy to just make a living working in bars and McD's, gifted artist, lacks impetus, but probably the happiest of all us, just goes along and has loads of fun....
  5. Daughter, no degree, didn't want, very driven tho, very clever, like me but not lazy, think she'll do best...
Interesting mix, hope I see them all do well, before the Grim Reaper plays me at conkers and I beat the fooker......
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I agree 1000% that one doesn’t need a degree to be succeful/ validated and happy. I am very against the proliferation of ludicrous ‘universities’ and courses on offer and the constant push of this government to get 50% into higher education. It’s costing too much and causing a reduction in standards in all areas. Apprenticeships and other opportunities should be encouraged as a positive option to getting a BA in something worthless from a second rate establishment.
The more hard working , street smart good tradesman, builders and small business owners with common sense we have the better in my opinion.
Rant over!
 
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