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iainw

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Vanquish list prices were always 200K+ and usually around 220K so the fact they can be bought now for less than 100K makes them extremely good value next to the others and is truly a car you could use for all reasons and seasons.
They are ludicrously good looking cars. Jaw dropping value for money now.
 

Felonious Crud

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this literally made me laugh out loud!

and coincidentally, it's the exact right criteria I'd say. if you need back seats, the GranTurismo is where it's at. if you don't, the V12V is one of the most awesome cars, nearly bar none. had one in triple digits in a 35mph stretch of twisties down in Carmel a few years back -- was mind altering.

Which was my reasoning. If I'd still needed four-seats it could only be a GTS, every day of the week.
 

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So, where do you think the new Vantage prices will be next year, and the knock on effect to v12v, vanquish etc, or not effect at all. Also wondering how Portofinio May effect the Cali T.
 

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So, where do you think the new Vantage prices will be next year, and the knock on effect to v12v, vanquish etc, or not effect at all. Also wondering how Portofinio May effect the Cali T.

I’d like to believe - and I certainly I hope - that the new Vantage is different enough from the old one that old prices will just do the normal depreciation thing rather than being influenced by the newer model. We fool ours lives that these last- model NA cars will be somehow immune from the normal laws of depreciation gravity, but I don’t think that’s really true ex Oy amongst is petrol-heads, and we’re a slowly shrinking minority in these green eco days.

So, I reckon new Vantage and old Vantage prices will both fall but new ones will fall quicker because they’re newer. This will be exacerbated by model updates and improvements (such as the new AMR models) which will further depress prices of the earlier models. Previous-gen prices will gradually plateau, especially the early V12V manuals, which are obscenely low at the moment.

Cali Ts will get squished by PF prices, but not for a year because there aren’t enough used PFs in the market yet.

Yours,
Mystic Crud
 

D Walker

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Pretty much my thinking, don’t think I will be looking for another car until 2021; depends on where I am working, I’m thinking about leaving here at Xmas, but have a feeling they will dangle the carrot, but good to hear other views.....at the moment I’m leaning towards Cali T, in blue of course, there are a couple in Jct600 in Leeds...
 
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There are no shortage of finance deals to be had. Go to a Ferrari main dealer or Aston Martin main dealer, put your GS up as deposit and voila you have a finance deal and drive away a Ferrari or Aston Martin.
And the GS? Gone forever - the cost of driving out in a Ferrari or Aston.

And after 3 years at the of the contract?
You hand the car back and take a train home sans 4 wheels - unless there is equity to take out another 3 year deal.
 

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And after 3 years at the of the contract?
You hand the car back and take a train home sans 4 wheels - unless there is equity to take out another 3 year deal.

Only if you want to. In the same way that you can sell your car and then you don't have one anymore. Equally, you may choose to buy it or change it for another. Individual choice, really.
 

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You guys will have to educate me on the finance deals you seem able to sniff out.

Finance is a lot simpler than many make it out to be - there is no dark art here. Depreciation and APR are all that matter, monthly payments just fall out of the equation once you decide how big your deposit is and what the term is. Lots of online calculators to play with but remember however you pay for a car the depreciation does not change so choosing the right car is more important than getting the absolute best finance deal; ie APR.
 
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Must admit I never really considered Finance when I purchased but I can kind of understand the flexibility it gives you if you wanna drive some "dream machine" that may be otherwise out of the question.

I struggle to get my head around the end of the deal where you potentially walk away though.....empty handed potentially unless you stump up a large sum.
(if you hand it back it's cost you your total monthly payments plus your car/deposit and any admin fees) and you're back potentially to something ordinary.

Ie you rent the most luxurious pad you can for two years, your savings run out and you move back into a council house.

Seems you need an appreciable asset not to do so.....which rules out most up to date new cars?
 
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Only if you want to. In the same way that you can sell your car and then you don't have one anymore. Equally, you may choose to buy it or change it for another. Individual choice, really.
True there are other options at the end of the term. In reality, buying it outright (perhaps with a loan) is not a cost-effective choice if you wanted to own it at the end of the term. Selling it independently in the hope of getting more than the GFV is difficult with prestige cars. Handing it back and taking another is by far the easiest and preferred option. But this requires a deposit as usually there is no or little equity in the car to fulfill the deposit needed on the next car. The equity is a pure gamble. Predicting the final value at the end of the term is less predictable than predicting the next passing of Haley's Comet. Handing the car back is by far the most exercised option.
 

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Do I get the sense that many people confuse the concept of financing a car with that of renting one? Like the deposit and the monthly payments will never be seen again and your beloved car will be snatched cruelly from your grasp at the end of the term?