HOW TO - change brake discs and pads (3200/4200/Spyder/GranSport)

gillis

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I just replaced my front disks and pads.
Now the car won't shift in first gear or reverse when engine is running. It shifts fine when engine is turned off. What can that be?
 

gillis

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I just replaced my front disks and pads.
Now the car won't shift in first gear or reverse when engine is running. It shifts fine when engine is turned off. What can that be?

:) Fool I am. I left my hood open, which will prevent shifting. Didn't know that :) problem solved
 

safrane

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So will having a door open...which can be tricky when trying to look at the back when reverse parking.
 

GraemeA

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Hi all

Just changing my front discs now but after removing the 13mm bolts, the old disc won't come off.

Any advice on how to tackle it? I've tried a rubber mallet but it won't budge.

Cheers

Graeme
 

2b1ask1

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A bit of heat on the bell might do it.

Or a bearing puller or just get angry with it!
 

TimR

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Can I just offer a word of warning regarding heat- the bearings are behind the bell...and the ABS sensor and gubbins...Dont go mad with your flame !!
 

2b1ask1

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True but some of the temperatures we were reading on disks at Bruntingthorpe etc. You'd have to go a bit silly to cause damage, I'm not suggesting gas axing them....
 

2b1ask1

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If you heat the bell, there will be a point when the disk expands more than the hub, if no wheel or bolts are holding it in place you may find it just pops off or at least is easier to shift.
 

philw696

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Block of wood and hit with lump hammer.
Keep a couple of bolts in place so it doesn't launch across the workshop.
 

rs48635

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Hi all

Just changing my front discs now but after removing the 13mm bolts, the old disc won't come off.

Any advice on how to tackle it? I've tried a rubber mallet but it won't budge.

Cheers

Graeme
Sit on the floor facing the disk. kick disk with heel of sturdy boot, alternate left and right foot.
maybe re-fit wheel and get more leverage
 

GraemeA

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Sit on the floor facing the disk. kick disk with heel of sturdy boot, alternate left and right foot.
maybe re-fit wheel and get more leverage
I've tried that but still no good. Any other ideas?

Seems like there should be a better method. What's holding the disk to the hub? I'll have a go with a puller next I think.
 

rockits

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Just the old case of two dissimilar metals with likely surface corrosion bonded together. Some penetrating fluid squirted down the wheel bolt holes has helped me in the past. Let is soak in for a while or overnight.

I remember changing the discs on my GF's (now wife) Fiat Uno nearly 30 years ago now and the disks were pretty much welded on. Old low mileage car! That took some heavy blows with a 4lb club hammer to get off. Came off in the end though!

Rotate the disks a bit after a few wacks and keep rotating as you may find one bit more susceptible to releasing.
 

Zep

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I've tried that but still no good. Any other ideas?

Seems like there should be a better method. What's holding the disk to the hub? I'll have a go with a puller next I think.

I think you will need a very big puller as the parts of the disc which you might get purchase on are around the outside. You best bet really is make sure everything is undone and a block of wood and a BFH (big hammer).
 

TimR

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Personally, Id seek out a man-sized puller...!
I remember a garage tech complaining that Id fitted the new alloys to my van, without anything to stop the wheels glueing themselves to the hubs ( I use a ceramic grease these days ).. He ended up swinging a sledge hammer at them...!!!! :eek:
It was one of those " Can you just flip my wheels front to rear for me as you have it on the lift, mate..!!??" :worried1:
 

Zep

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Personally, Id seek out a man-sized puller...!
I remember a garage tech complaining that Id fitted the new alloys to my van, without anything to stop the wheels glueing themselves to the hubs ( I use a ceramic grease these days ).. He ended up swinging a sledge hammer at them...!!!! :eek:
It was one of those " Can you just flip my wheels front to rear for me as you have it on the lift, mate..!!??" :worried1:

A puller is preferable, but not many have one that size. Perfection is the enemy of good enough as they say.