Greta Thunberg

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There will always be a problem dealing/communicating with this out lady due to her suffering from Asperger syndrome. I worked directly with a colleague who had the problem, and know the issues it throws up.

As someone with Aspergers, and a significant number of relatives with it I don’t see it as a ‘problem’ in fact I see it mostly as a positive; it definitely makes me who I am, it gives me moments of genius and courage beyond belief. If there is a negative it is that I take things at face value, I cannot lie, even a little one will wrack next with guilt for ever. We can see this in Gretta’s ability to stand up in front of the world’s media and state what she believes to be the truth. The passion and anger she expresses is because she wholly believes what she has been told.

is she a puppet, absolutely, is she heading for a fall, probably but not before she gets a chance to embarrass some world leaders, hopefully into some action.
 

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I sort of get what she says, not sure I entirely agree with everything and she does come across as a spoiled brat sometimes.
I will do my bit and recycle what I can, working as a builder my sandwiches and drinks are in single use plastic containers or cling film if I make my own.

Today we start our new project 120000 sq feet of BRAND NEW office space - The ceiling alone cost c£60,000 to BUY - that’s plus install! We should know my company did the Fit Out last year.

Tomorrow I have 20 labourers on site to rip it ALL down and throw it away!

As I look out on London from the 33rd floor I look at the acres of empty office space with new floors ceilings and lights — just how much of that will end up in a skip because the letting agent wants to see a new floor (sometimes with carpet) and a new white ceiling, however every client wants their own unique office space.
 

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It used to be the case that youthful left wing idealism was snubbed out by the seductive nature of parenthood, mortgage, career, savings or something to lose. Hence the gradual drift to the centre, or right of centre (generally) as people get older.
For the younger generation, for millennials like I, and those younger than me, these old certainties no longer exist; birth rate reducing still further (I’m not having kids, for example), no chance of a home (I got lucky), final salary pensions a thing off the past, restricted wages, career stunting, gig economy etc, there is a chance that left wing idealism will not go away. Add in increased populism and this time, real change - for the better, for the worse - may well be on the cards.
 

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I read this today from a RIBA magazine which refreshingly lays much blame at architects’ doors. Even those who haven’t yet bought their Tesla. It basically says we could be measuring CO2 in terms of trips to the supermarket in full fat Range Rovers and that lo and behold there are many worse felons than the internal combustion engine. Now I feel a little less guilty taking the QP GTS for its Italian tune up this afternoon...View attachment 62733View attachment 62734


What an excellent and interesting article. Thanks.

Link to it
 

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I really like the RIBA article, and the concept of measuring environmental impact in the context of Range Rover Shopping Trips (RST’s).

However, this is SportsMaserati, so how does a Maserati Italian Tune-up (MIT) compare?
 

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TBF, we don't know where the pic was taken, or if the chairs are real or fake, and why the Italian?
 

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I recently witnessed a student climate change protest, and whilst it was extremely well orchestrated many of the students looked as if they would rather be elsewhere.

My fear is that youngsters could be manipulated by peer pressure and by some very cynical people who might have agendas other than climate change. Given the latter, and the fact that protests have caused mass absenteeism at a time when parents are routinely fined for taking their kids out of school, I do hope that the authorities, including DfE, have appropriate safeguards in place.

Protecting children is just as important as protecting the planet is it not?

PH
 

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A shrill yoof tells me that if we all ate less meat, continuing damage to the planet would slow down appreciably due to the reduced impact of deforestation to make room for cattle plus lower methane emissions from burping cattle (yes, it's true). As an added bonus, eating less meat is healthy. Win-win. Yay.

UK meat production is amongst the most sustainable and planet friendly you can find. If done properly, it can be carbon positive. Check this out:
 

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As someone with Aspergers, and a significant number of relatives with it I don’t see it as a ‘problem’ in fact I see it mostly as a positive; it definitely makes me who I am, it gives me moments of genius and courage beyond belief. If there is a negative it is that I take things at face value, I cannot lie, even a little one will wrack next with guilt for ever. We can see this in Gretta’s ability to stand up in front of the world’s media and state what she believes to be the truth. The passion and anger she expresses is because she wholly believes what she has been told.

is she a puppet, absolutely, is she heading for a fall, probably but not before she gets a chance to embarrass some world leaders, hopefully into some action.

Respect mate.

It’s a commendable message, just a little misguided. The real message should be that the last 100 years of hydrocarbon production have enabled the education and understanding of all of us, and we are grateful. However we now need to educate others, particularly the likes of India etc that the world needs to embrace that knowledge and understand the need to change. I work with several major supermarkets and they are trying to change as fast as possible, and they will, but many other countries are way behind the West and need to be encouraged more.
 

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UK meat production is amongst the most sustainable and planet friendly you can find. If done properly, it can be carbon positive. Check this out:

I guess the trouble is, a lot of our meat comes from foreign places, uses vast amounts of water to grow, produce and package and generates masses of CO2 shipping it to us.

But you make a good point - Buy British!
 

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It’s a commendable message, just a little misguided. The real message should be that the last 100 years of hydrocarbon production have enabled the education and understanding of all of us, and we are grateful. However we now need to educate others, particularly the likes of India etc that the world needs to embrace that knowledge and understand the need to change. I work with several major supermarkets and they are trying to change as fast as possible, and they will, but many other countries are way behind the West and need to be encouraged more.

You were in China recently, Athol. When I was there last year I was amazed at how many electric taxis and mopeds there were. Far more than here. Set aside the environmental costs of battery production, the air in some places is cleaner than in London or even in my village high street.

Overall, though, you're right the developed world is generally less of an issue than emerging countries (such as China and India) and global shipping, which itself is a huge contributor to CO2 emissions. Again, our cars are not really the problem, just an easier bete-noir for a cause which can't shout at a Chinese coal-burning power station from the comfort of a Bristol town square.
 

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A motoring fanatic has spoken

Jeremy Clarkson brands Greta Thunberg 'mad and dangerous' in rant on live TV
Jeremy Clarkson is not a fan of 16-year-old environmentalist Greta Thunberg and has called her out previously before this attack on live TV

Read in Mirror Online: https://apple.news/A2PB8CAmjQBKN6x32SPv2KQ

He also says that he has seen the impact of climate change first hand. His beef (sorry!) with Thunberg is that she is too shrill, so he has a point there...
 

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He also says that he has seen the impact of climate change first hand. His beef (sorry!) with Thunberg is that she is too shrill, so he has a point there...

I think we can all agree with him on the shrill thing. No one wants to be yelled at, whether they've fvcked up or not, and least of all by someone they've never met and who's credentials seem to be extend little way beyond being loud, shrill, angry and doubtless having a spittle-flecked keyboard.
 
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Ok so I’m in a different van than usual and have been since Friday, I’ve had my daughter with me two days and have eaten two lunches in the road, this evening we chucked a full carrier bag of drink and food cartons away; it was ALL single use plastic! I commented that even three years ago there would not have been half as much plastic and I’m sure of it. Everything is now double wrapped and heat sealed, even labels are shrink wrapped in another layer of plastic! Why? Why can we not have recycled paper sacks instead of carrier bags? I’d far rather buy meat and deli loose and drinks in cartons.

Shop at Morrisons. Their bags are paper