Granturismo Mc Shift noise

[Felonious Crud]

Yeah, I'd go along with the that. Pete, the saviour of lost lambs and the voice of reason.

Best you can do is make sure the seller understands that he's been a total pr!ck and he's lucky you're not a nasty b4stard. It's worth a call to Athol's mate, but not with any great expectations that a simple, stress-free solution awaits. Litigation is never fun.

Also, look at it this way: what you saved on buying from a respected dealer with a reputation to uphold, you'll spend part of getting the variators done. Also they don't need doing.

 

[todea20]

Firstly i would like to thank you to everyone on here for trying and helping me out on this situation!
I have sent the guy an email and even i have said before to help out with half of the cost, now i have told him that i will leave this at his hand and i would really appreciate if he's willing to do anything.I need to get this fixed asap and it's really embarrassing starting your car with that noise.Mine does it everytime if you just leave it sit for 15-20mins so it must have been like that for long time.If it was something live every now and then i wouldn't bother asking him for some money back!
Aldous from Av Enginnering has been on the email with me and helped me out but they just can't take any work.
Can't really remember now the engine number as i'm not home but it's starting with 143... so it's in those engines!
I still have some faith left in humans so i'm hopping he will understand my situation.
It was all planned in my mind..this weekend i would have taken off the wheels and give them a good clean then apply ceramic protection and move on to the bodywork and bring it to it's former glory.All i can stare now is a broken car that i can't even driving it.
I will keep you updated guys on this outcome but for now all i can do is leave it at his hand.
Wish you everyone a good weekend!

 

[BuckRog64]

Sorry to read your bad news. I know how you must be feeling.

As most have said, you have no legal redress unfortunately. Best you can do is write to the seller telling him he has knowingly sold you a car with an undisclosed expensive fault and that if he doesn't send you half the cost of the fix (in advance) you will take whatever action necessary to recover the whole cost. Make it clear you are not going away and hopefully the worry of legal proceedings or the heavy mob will prompt him to pay.

The lesson for next time is to get a PPI. But even if you tell seller car is to be inspected with a stone cold engine, a devious seller could run the engine briefly to get the oil circulated and mask the fault just before the technician arrived?

 

[Felonious Crud]

It's a crappy and low-life thing for the guy to have done, but don't let it stop you from taking pleasure in getting the wheels off, cleaned, waxed and the body looking beautiful. As Conaero suggested, maybe some peer pressure or a legal letter might encourage him to do the decent thing, but don't assume that he'll budge. Tw4t.

 

[Ewan]

Contact Shiltech (a sponsor on here). They are as cheap as anyone for this work. Probably about £3k all in.

 

[Nibby]

I'm sorry to hear this op. Having been the victim of buying a car where the seller was economical with the truth back in the mid 80s, I had used a £2500 bank loan to buy it which was a lot of money for me back then. It was a total pup.
Hope he comes good with some cash, if he don't keep positive and look forward to enjoying the car when fixed.

 

[Gazcw]

Contact Shiltech (a sponsor on here). They are as cheap as anyone for this work. Probably about £3k all in.

Agree with Ewan. I can recommend the guys and gals at Shiltech.

 

[ofenomeno99]

I've been in a couple of similar situations - from an ethical and moral point of view the seller was wrong - unfortunately you should have done your due diligence before buying the car. He didn't force the sale on you, you bought it based on what you saw.

However, if the seller had some ethics and morals and knew what he was doing - he should at least have the decency to at least cover half of the costs (taken from the sale price of the vehicle) as a gesture of goodwill.

And like others have said, take it on the chin as a life lesson and enjoy the car!!!

 

[mattjevans]

Seller was clearly a real p***k

The first question I asked each time when I was looking for mine was “Have the variators been done?”. I had one dealer who plainly didn’t know what that even meant

 

[rockits]

I'm afraid we don't live in a lovely utopian society although of course I wish we did. I've no idea if I have had more than my fair share of ups & downs but I trust very few people these days & often always presume the worst in people & situations. Life toughens you up & hardens you which is no bad thing. It makes you sharp, tough & hardened. I still like to look for the good in people & give people a chance. I still make more than my fair share of mistakes & am still learning all the time. I like to think I'm am not totally green & reasonably shrewd but still make plenty of mistakes.

I bought an S211 E55K Estate a couple of years back blind on description due to the distance involved. A price was agreed based on what the seller told me. It wasn't quite as described but was a sold as seen private sale. I spoke to the seller after & we both agreed a revised deal which meant he returned 2k of the 10k paid to allow the works to be completed at his cost to get it to the level it should have been. This is quite rare & unusual I would suggest. I can be quite convincing & forceful when I need to be.

At sounds neanderthal and was some years ago but sometimes the heavy handed tactics can work. I bought a.2nd hand 3 year old MG Metro Turbo from a Rover main dealer many many years ago. It was a real pup & ended up having 5 new Goldseal gearboxes & 2 new Goldseal engines and a Turbo amongst other things. The last gearbox job they refused to fix anything else. One day I went down to the dealer with my dad & his mate to see the General Manager. He was asked if he would get the car fixed to which he said no. My dads mate pretty much picked him up off the floor by his throat against the wall in his office then asked the question again. The reply changed to a yes & the car was fixed. I then got shot of it to a dealer as part ex I might add.

I'm not proud & it was a bit old school but sometimes old school still works

 

[Ian996]

Really sorry to hear this - as has been said before, a terrible way to start what should be a very enjoyable ownership experience.

In terms of options - have you considered the small claims court? I've represented a previous employer a few times there, and have been really impressed by the fairness of the process, and there is a limited cost involved (much cheaper than getting a solicitor involved).

Was there anything in the sales description that suggested the engine was in good order? If so, as per Safrane's remarks, you could have comeback on misrepresentation. Also, getting a summons to the SCC might be enough to prod the seller into some kind of action.

From Which... but your options are significantly limited.

Second-hand car bought privately


But contractual rules about misrepresentation do apply. So, legally, the seller must:

accurately describe the second-hand car. For example, an ad must not say 'one owner' when the car has had several, not misrepresent the second-hand car, ie tell you something about it which isn't true. For example, if it's been in an accident, the owner mustn't tell you it hasn't.

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[TridentTested]

now i have told him that i will leave this at his hand and i would really appreciate if he's willing to do anything

I hate to break it to you, but someone who has knowingly concealed a problem while selling is extremely unlikely to change his spots and suddenly come over all generous and public spirited. The man is a pr*ck, put him behind you, get the car fixed, and enjoy it.

We've all been there, anyone who has bought and sold cars has experienced these sellers. When I bought my Alfa 164, many moons ago, the seller was hiding a head gasket issue - he must have been cleaning the emulsion off before each viewing, it looked clean when I checked the fillers but a few weeks later there was undeniable evidence of head gasket failure. Private sale, no comeback, big bill for new gaskets. Once I swallowed that lesson I still managed to enjoy that car and kept it for years.

Get it fixed, enjoy it.

 

[todea20]

I've got news!
''I thought long and hard about my response, because at the end of the day, I think I am a fairly reasonable guy.'' and the answer is NO! What a reasonable guy! Heh

 

[Felonious Crud]

I've got news!
''I thought long and hard about my response, because at the end of the day, I think I am a fairly reasonable guy.'' and the answer is NO! What a reasonable guy! Heh

What a ******* ****.

 

[dickygrace]

I've got news!
''I thought long and hard about my response, because at the end of the day, I think I am a fairly reasonable guy.'' and the answer is NO! What a reasonable guy! Heh

Karma will catch up with him one day.

 

[rockits]

Karma will catch up with him one day.

I always used to think that but but I'm not sure it ever or always does.

 

[D Walker]

I've got news!
''I thought long and hard about my response, because at the end of the day, I think I am a fairly reasonable guy.'' and the answer is NO! What a reasonable guy! Heh

What a .................

 

[Contigo]

Send him a link to this thread. What a tool!

 

[dickygrace]

Send him a link to this thread. What a tool!

That’s a great shout!!

 

[GeoffCapes]

At sounds neanderthal and was some years ago but sometimes the heavy handed tactics can work. I bought a.2nd hand 3 year old MG Metro Turbo from a Rover main dealer many many years ago. It was a real pup & ended up having 5 new Goldseal gearboxes & 2 new Goldseal engines and a Turbo amongst other things. The last gearbox job they refused to fix anything else. One day I went down to the dealer with my dad & his mate to see the General Manager. He was asked if he would get the car fixed to which he said no. My dads mate pretty much picked him up off the floor by his throat against the wall in his office then asked the question again. The reply changed to a yes & the car was fixed. I then got shot of it to a dealer as part ex I might add.

I'm not proud & it was a bit old school but sometimes old school still works

You'll be surprised how receptive some people are when they think they're going to lose their teeth.