Gransport vs Granturismo MC Shift Prices

[ofenomeno99]

Hi all,

I'm one of those people (like I'm sure many of you are) that are constantly on autotrader, pistonheads etc. looking at car prices and how they appreciate/depreciate over time.

With the Gransport and Granturismo being my 2 favourite cars, I've noticed that lately Gransport prices have been creeping up and at times matching the Granturismo MC Shift prices.

What got me wondering is what that means for the MC Shift cars? Do you reckon that they have bottomed out in depreciation.

I mean, I absolutely adore the Gransport and consider it the best car I've ever owned, and do plan on having one to in the future to keep forever, but even I would struggle picking a Gransport over an MC Shift ?

Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Yuseff

 

[safrane]

As GTs are still being made there is IMO still some way to go on the depreciation curve.

Yes aware the current models have different gearboxs but thats still my view.

 

[BuckRog64]

Hi Yuseff

I think it's impossible to predict the future. With other prestige marques once an older model starts appreciating the model that replaced it tends to bottom out. For example, 997 Turbos stopped depreciating when the 996 Turbo started going up. Same for 360 when F355 started rising. However, you will know that the GS and GTS are quite different cars so maybe that wont happen in this case.

The view of the professionals in the trade appears to be that the Gransport is becoming rare so good ones will keep appreciating. My view is that they will go back down when the whole "modern classics" market corrects itself to sensible levels, but most disagree with me (for now!).

Out of interest, if the GS was the best car you have owned why would you not swap your GTS for another one? I've concluded that the more compact and sporty nature of the GS will suit me better than a GTS, plus will leave a few quid in the bank for maintenance if I find one I like before too long.

 

[ofenomeno99]

Hi Yuseff

I think it's impossible to predict the future. With other prestige marques once an older model starts appreciating the model that replaced it tends to bottom out. For example, 997 Turbos stopped depreciating when the 996 Turbo started going up. Same for 360 when F355 started rising. However, you will know that the GS and GTS are quite different cars so maybe that wont happen in this case.

The view of the professionals in the trade appears to be that the Gransport is becoming rare so good ones will keep appreciating. My view is that they will go back down when the whole "modern classics" market corrects itself to sensible levels, but most disagree with me (for now!).

Out of interest, if the GS was the best car you have owned why would you not swap your GTS for another one? I've concluded that the more compact and sporty nature of the GS will suit me better than a GTS, plus will leave a few quid in the bank for maintenance if I find one I like before too long.

I agree with you regarding prices going back down. As rare as the Gransport is, I think it's only us crazy Maserati minority that appreciate and lust over them.

RE swapping my GTS for a Gransport - I think it is something that I would strongly consider if the right deal came up. I.e. someone with a Gransport looking to change to a GTS, however, everytime I see the GTS parked at home when I come back from work I struggle to think about selling it.

To me, I think the Gransport is a bit more bespoke and unique, where, it does not appeal to the masses but is something you fall deeply in love with and makes the ownership a lot more intimate. And the interior is more like a cockpit. Again when people see it, they would think that its just an old car, because they don't understand that it was Maserati's intentions to go down to basics. This to me is something that the GTS cannot live up to.

Performance wise, I think they're very similar, with the GTS maybe having a bit more shove? Nothing too noticable though.

I think where the GTS is better is of coarse the way it sounds (however I've heard that the Larini setup on the GS is great) and the GTS is a lot more comfortable on the roads (not something I really care about)

 

[GeoffCapes]

The GS and GTS are two completely different cars. The GTS is so much more modern it is startling.

The GTS is a better car pretty much all round, however, the GS has that 'something' that makes it a special car.

IMHO buy/keep which ever floats your boat.

 

[allandwf]

Once they all get "old" it will boil down to numbers made, that will work in the GSs favour.

 

[Contigo]

The GS is the last and best of the coupes but that's where it ends. The GTS looks so much more modern and just so much more special. I'd never consider swapping mine for a GS as I see it as a major downgrade.

 

[Ewan]

It is already hard to find low mileage, low owner GranSports, hence the high prices for the best examples. Even more so in the case of the MC-V with even average mileage versions now going for approximately £55k. Hence I recently turned down an offer of a Strad in exchange for my MC-V plus £10k. Even at a straight swap I'd have to think hard.

The GT-S will go down a bit yet, but not too much. They are still special, especially the MC-Shift version, and are already cracking value for money as a second hand purchase. As has been said before, what else compares to it at the £40k mark?

But they are very different cars. The GT-S is considerably bigger and more comfortable, as well as being more modern and better sounding. The GS, on the other hand, is more of a sports car in set-up and rarer. So don't pick one over the other - pick both!

 

[ofenomeno99]

It is already hard to find low mileage, low owner GranSports, hence the high prices for the best examples. Even more so in the case of the MC-V with even average mileage versions now going for approximately £55k. Hence I recently turned down an offer of a Strad in exchange for my MC-V plus £10k. Even at a straight swap I'd have to think hard.

The GT-S will go down a bit yet, but not too much. They are still special, especially the MC-Shift version, and are already cracking value for money as a second hand purchase. As has been said before, what else compares to it at the £40k mark?

But they are very different cars. The GT-S is considerably bigger and more comfortable, as well as being more modern and better sounding. The GS, on the other hand, is more of a sports car in set-up and rarer. So don't pick one over the other - pick both!

This is what I think as well, best to have both, and it's something I'm aiming to do. There's a one owner GS with around 30K miles in Kuwait where I used to live going for around 10,000 pounds - The lady who owns it has been trying to sell it for 4 years now and has not been able to because the price is considered really high for a Maserati (They tend to go for around 4,000 - 5,000 over there) This is a car I would really want to consider to buy and bring over - absolute bargain.

RE your MC Victory, I wouldn't even think about selling it if I were you. It's an absolute keeper.

 

[StuartW]

This is what I think as well, best to have both, and it's something I'm aiming to do. There's a one owner GS with around 30K miles in Kuwait where I used to live going for around 10,000 pounds - The lady who owns it has been trying to sell it for 4 years now and has not been able to because the price is considered really high for a Maserati (They tend to go for around 4,000 - 5,000 over there) This is a car I would really want to consider to buy and bring over - absolute bargain.

RE your MC Victory, I wouldn't even think about selling it if I were you. It's an absolute keeper.

That Kuwaiti car is potentially worth more than that in parts - get it snapped up and then you have the best of both worlds

 

[D Walker]

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...arly New&onesearchad=New&make=MASERATI&page=4

 

[Contigo]

Good to see strong prices. Just done 300 miles in her today, scared the family and also had people jumping and screaming in the towns and villages around the lakes. There is and will be no other car like it that I am sure of....

 

[Andyk]

Agree Phil....Certainly Maserati will not build another NA V8 so buy a good one now and make it a keeper.

 

[safrane]

Not just low miles GS that are heading north...

This looks rather sweet.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classif...v8-manual--only-27-950-miles-from-new/7684997

 

[Contigo]

Lovely but is it twice my car? Not a chance.

 

[bigbob]

Not just low miles GS that are heading north...

This looks rather sweet.

https://www.pistonheads.com/classif...v8-manual--only-27-950-miles-from-new/7684997

3 years 3 months between oil changes. It's that old debate between low mileage but long service intervals and high mileage and regular service intervals. I personally think this value rise is all puff and would take advantage of it if I had one of the older cars and was holding it for other than brand dedication reasons.

 

[Contigo]

If the car has only covered 400 miles since the last oil change say I see no point in doing it at all. Also who's to say it hasn't been done by a garage and has a receipt for it?

 

[bigbob]

If the car has only covered 400 miles since the last oil change say I see no point in doing it at all. Also who's to say it hasn't been done by a garage and has a receipt for it?

Bloody ****, this place is normally ripping people apart and now you are giving them the benefit of the doubt for a £30k car when most are half that price. At the end of the day the advert lists a huge amount of provenance but the car went 39 months but under 2500 miles between it's last services. I guess it's for the potential buyers to decide how long is too long to leave oil in an engine.

 

[Contigo]

It's the others, I look at a reason why it might not have been done and if it has only covered a small amount of miles it wouldn't bother me but again that's all my opinion and YMMV. The 3200 I have has not been serviced since 2014 and that's because we have done about 300 miles....

 

[bigbob]

It's the others, I look at a reason why it might not have been done and if it has only covered a small amount of miles it wouldn't bother me but again that's all my opinion and YMMV. The 3200 I have has not been serviced since 2014 and that's because we have done about 300 miles....

I actually think your's is pretty much classified as not driven so that would not bother me but I would change the oil before doing any material mileage. I guess with the other car you could look at the MOTs to see if the 2500 miles was all front end but if it was not then that would bother me.