Ferrari to cease engines to Maserati

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They did produce an excellent V8 in 4.7 and 4.9 guise, that was long lived, before the biturbo era though.
 
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allandwf said:
They did produce an excellent V8 in 4.7 and 4.9 guise, that was long lived, before the biturbo era though.
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Without wishing to p!ss anyone off here, the troubles always seem to start when then go NA to Turbo, would that be a sensible analogy?
4.7/4.9 to V6/V6 Bi Turbo/V8 Bi Turbo
4.2/4.7 to V6T

Cant Maserati continue with the current 4.7, they did design it and just build and develop it for the next 5-10 years. By that time, everything will be electric anyway.

Intertingly, all the current 4.2/4.7 MV8's have FPT (Fiat Power Train) stamped on them anyway.
 
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TBH, it seems last decade or so it seems easier to develop quite sophisticated new engines relatively quickly, remember in 70/80's when all we had in each high end marque just one engine that had been around for ages, Jag V12, Aston V8, etc. Seems there are low production V8's, V12's and W12's everywhere now.

Surely Maserati could produce a new V8 given their pedigree relatively easily, assuming the knowledge is still there, and not replaced with Chrysler muscle-car grunts....
 
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True then....Ferrari CEO on PH saying that when the deal comes to an end in 2021 they will cease providing engines to Maserati. They say it because of margins but also labour and the colleagues they put on Maserati can be put onto the car side of Ferrari.
 
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Without meaning to put the 'cat amongst the chickens', it makes the choice I made with the Diesel that much better!!
However, and forgive my smug joke, as has already been said this will be something FCA planners will have been well aware of, and I am guessing VM Motori the engine division of the organisation will as a result, have been working on a new generation of hybrid power plants. More to the point where is the next generation platform for the entire new range going to be sourced. Given that full electric is in the pipeline, that will require a unique design. It's my hope FCA have done their sums and see a cost effective solution to fund this for future Maserati cars.
Finally, I can see the disappointment amongst owners who, and had I gone the petrol route I would be one of them, used to be able to talk of their car with a Ferrari engine, but the real truth unless you had an old generation model, or the now old Granturismo, you were getting an engine with a Chrysler block just assembled by Ferrari. Only the V8 could be truly attributed to Ferrari, being designed from the ground up and used in Ferrari's own products.
Either way all transformative times for the Maserati brand, and to the average customer of the relatively successful models - Ghibli/Levante I doubt they know or care where the engine is made, and as is the case with my car, electronics will provide the exhaust sound.
 
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On the flip side may be good news for pre chrysler maseratis - a step towards collectatibility?
 
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keith said:
Without meaning to put the 'cat amongst the chickens', it makes the choice I made with the Diesel that much better!!
However, and forgive my smug joke, as has already been said this will be something FCA planners will have been well aware of, and I am guessing VM Motori the engine division of the organisation will as a result, have been working on a new generation of hybrid power plants. More to the point where is the next generation platform for the entire new range going to be sourced. Given that full electric is in the pipeline, that will require a unique design. It's my hope FCA have done their sums and see a cost effective solution to fund this for future Maserati cars.
Finally, I can see the disappointment amongst owners who, and had I gone the petrol route I would be one of them, used to be able to talk of their car with a Ferrari engine, but the real truth unless you had an old generation model, or the now old Granturismo, you were getting an engine with a Chrysler block just assembled by Ferrari. Only the V8 could be truly attributed to Ferrari, being designed from the ground up and used in Ferrari's own products.
Either way all transformative times for the Maserati brand, and to the average customer of the relatively successful models - Ghibli/Levante I doubt they know or care where the engine is made, and as is the case with my car, electronics will provide the exhaust sound.
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The 3.8 TT isn’t a Chrysler block. It’s a Ferrari engine and is used in current Ferrari production cars, so some modern ones are the real deal. Could be good to get a Levante Trofeo if/when it arrives.
 
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Wasn’t it just last week we were reading and commenting on Maserati producing a new car every X for the next few years.

Surely they will have known about the loss of the Ferrari engine, they aren’t that daft so something must be going on in the background otherwise they just look stupid and incompetent
 
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As I understand Maserati is looking towards hybrid and fully electric.
They need to turn to a supplier if not develop in house expertise in this new technology. As I said FCA existing engine producer may well be developing this for future group models. Wherever this technology comes from Ferrari are not the experts, so I think to turn this thread on its head, I expect FCA told Ferrari their engines will no longer be required in the long term.
 
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Aren't Maserati already working on an electric motor though.....Is that their own work ?.....
 
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Andyk said:
Aren't Maserati already working on an electric motor though.....Is that their own work ?.....
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Its being done in collaboration with Ferrari. I suspect it will once again be co produced then trialed in the Maserati, then when ironed out make its way to the F...with higher output of course.

Same old, same old!
 
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I read that Maserati and Alfa would have more of a tie with new electric/hybrid, or whatever, being shared between the two, with Ferrari being more autonomous .
 
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Ryandoc said:
Wasn’t it just last week we were reading and commenting on Maserati producing a new car every X for the next few years.

Surely they will have known about the loss of the Ferrari engine, they aren’t that daft so something must be going on in the background otherwise they just look stupid and incompetent
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I am sure you are correct.

But history shows a fair bit of stupidity and incompetence :)
 
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