Formula 1 Qualifying F1

Swedish Paul

Member
Messages
1,807
Rubbish, Hamilton's driving was dangerous on the particular corner, he looked desperate..
Leclerc should of won, and was voted driver of the day by the way!

Dave
It looked like Hamilton saw what was coming and backed off. Max needs to learn to back off his aggression. He knew that if Hamilton made that pass, he would probably win.
 

alfatwo

Member
Messages
5,517
Basically.. Hamilton knows full well Red Bull are going to stich Merc this year, its just a matter of time!
Max will be in on it in two weeks time in Hungary, you just watch!

Dave
 

Andyk

Member
Messages
61,040
Rubbish, Hamilton's driving was dangerous on the particular corner, he looked desperate..
Leclerc should of won, and was voted driver of the day by the way!

Dave

Well we all have our opinions and I don’t think yours is ‘rubbish’ as it’s your opinion. Leclerc certainly did his best with what he had. Lewis new he had to overtake on that first lap as it would have been all over so he went for it. That accident looked like both played a part and didn’t want to give anything and it was unfortunate they touched. They are racing drivers that just need to race.
 
Last edited:

Andyk

Member
Messages
61,040
Didnt mean Hamilton wasn’t to blame. Meant Horner complaining about dangerous driving when his own driver does dangerous stuff was the pot calling the kettle black

All this from his hospital bed from Horner was just theatricals. He was there to get checked over and for Helmet to say Lewis should have a race ban was pathetic. If it had been the other way I am sure he would have been celebrating at the end the same as Mercedes and saying it was not his drivers fault.
 

Tallman

Member
Messages
1,833
Max has been squeaky clean for quite a while now, same can’t be said for Hamilton. Hamilton has also been penalised for those shenanigans by the experts who have access to the data. Given that this time he took out his rival I think the comments, whilst made in the heat of the moment, are fair. Celebrating wildly whilst same rival is still getting checked out in hospital? Meh…He got off lightly with the 10s penalty given he had the fastest car that side of the grid, and he still had to rely on his team mate getting out of the way for him. A little more humility would have suited him.
 

Andyk

Member
Messages
61,040
The first thing I heard after the accident was Hamilton asking if Max was OK over the radio.

This has certainly divided opinion which is good as it is interesting to hear everyone’s opinion and I can see both sides as this one for me was not cut and dry. Felt like a racing accident to me but I get why others feel differently. Max was OK which is good and British fans saw a British driver win and the first race with full capacity and onto the next race which this will have spiced it up some what for the rest of the season.
 

Phil H

Member
Messages
4,107
It's hard to name a top level driver of the last 50 years who's not been accused of 'dangerous play' at some point in their career, it goes with the job. Heroes one minute and hated the next, all because someone cries "foul" - often team managers trying to gain advantage. The days of 'gentleman' drivers and teams have long since gone, and the sport is all the worse for it.
 

Simon1963

Member
Messages
819
Max has been squeaky clean for quite a while now, same can’t be said for Hamilton. Hamilton has also been penalised for those shenanigans by the experts who have access to the data. Given that this time he took out his rival I think the comments, whilst made in the heat of the moment, are fair. Celebrating wildly whilst same rival is still getting checked out in hospital? Meh…He got off lightly with the 10s penalty given he had the fastest car that side of the grid, and he still had to rely on his team mate getting out of the way for him. A little more humility would have suited him.
I expected Hamilton to majorly kick off when he was told of the penalty. Surprisingly he didn’t.
 

Vampyrebat

Member
Messages
3,117
I expected Hamilton to majorly kick off when he was told of the penalty. Surprisingly he didn’t.
I think that's because in his heart of hearts he knew he was to blame, you could tell (in the interim) by the questions he was asking and his body language. If he could, he would have certainly turned back the clock and gone about things in a different way...
 

conaero

Forum Owner
Messages
34,594
The way I saw it, it was a desperate and stupid attempt to get past a faster car which nearly ended up in a drivers death.

Lewis knew this hence his immediate asking if Max was ok.

He should have been given a punishment that fitted the crime instead he went on to win the race.

I get RB’s point.

Ferrari, well done for putting it in there.
 

Mr.Cambio

Member
Messages
7,096
Really enjoying the F1 since the Monaco GP. It has been years where races have been boring, now this seems to change.
Some people do not like Hamilton, but with ten seconds penalty he fought until the end and won.
Also love to see that Ferrari is regaining something good from the past.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Guy

zagatoes30

Member
Messages
20,764
My tuppence, for what it's worth

Lewis had Max from the gun, pressured him into the first few corners, even passed him on the Wellington straight before Max left braking as late as possible to grab the inside line. Max was out of position on nearly every corner coming up to Copse due to the pressure from Lewis.

Copse is certainly not a two car corner and both drivers know this, Lewis was quicker coming into the corner he showed the front of the car to Max and Max moved away to give him space but then both assumed incorrectly that the other would lift. It look like Lewis thought that as Max had lifted and made room he was going to give him the space, Max assumed that as he had made room but was still in front it was his corner. Both drivers could have still avoided the crash, Lewis could have stuck tighter to the inside apex or Max could have run a bit wider to give Lewis room, neither backed out or changed their line and contact was inevitable.

It is a dangerous corner, there were two fully committed racers doing what they do race, their were two big egos in play and judgements were right on the line. In my view either could have avoided the crash, either had options, Lewis was faster, Max was in front they made the choices and touched on a very fast and dangerous corner,

We want them to race, that's their job, their was no last minute lunge, there was no you don't know where I am, to me I have it down as a racing incident as either could have avoided the problem but both wanted to win
 
Last edited:

lifes2short

Member
Messages
5,821
i think some humility from lewis would of gone a long way, but he's just too arrogant




Quotes:

Hamilton also said he has nothing to apologise for after Christian Horner said he put Verstappen’s life in danger.

Horner said: “His actions have left in jeopardy another driver’s safety and for me that is unacceptable.

“Every grand prix driver knows that a move at that corner – one of the fastest in Formula One – is a massive, massive risk.


“You don’t put a wheel up the inside without there being huge consequences. We are just lucky today that there wasn’t someone seriously hurt.

“What I am most angry about is just the lack of judgement, and the desperation in this move. It was never on.


But Hamilton said: “I don’t really have anything to say to Christian. The win doesn’t feel hollow.


“I don’t think I am in a position to have to apologise for anything. We are out there racing.

“I don’t agree with the stewards but I take my penalty on the chin and get on with my job. I am not going to whine about it.

“Everyone is going to have a different opinion and I don’t really care what people think so I just do what I do and I am really grateful for today.”