EV and advice from any users please!

safrane

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So why would this be required?

Is it to add a higher rate of tax on that source? and if you don't have a smart meter (no phone or internet where I live, unless you go upstairs or in the garden on a good day) how would this work?

I use my 3 PIN at home as the hybrid only takes a small amount of power relative to an full EV.
 

Oneball

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So why would this be required?

Is it to add a higher rate of tax on that source? and if you don't have a smart meter (no phone or internet where I live, unless you go upstairs or in the garden on a good day) how would this work?

I use my 3 PIN at home as the hybrid only takes a small amount of power relative to an full EV.

If the smart bit of the meter doesn’t work the separate metering still does.

The cynic says it’s so they can tax electricity for vehicles but I’m sure it’s also about future proofing so a demand based pay scale as per Economy 7 can be applied.
 
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Zep

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If the smart bit of the meter doesn’t work the separate metering still does.

The cynic says it’s so they can tax electricity for vehicles but I’m sure it’s also about future proofing so a demand based pay scale as per Economy 7 can be applied.

Exactly this. The concern around supply is what happens at the peaks. They want to option of stopping the charging or even using the energy in cars to support the grid.

Say the grid is under heavy load, they will be able to turn off charging for short periods, unless you overide it and pay a higher rate.

This winter there will be payments available of more than 50p per kWh saved at peak times, some say it should be more like £2.
 

Ewan

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I've been using the E-Tron 55 Quattro for the last week for a 100 mile daily commute to Southampton and back. It's averaging 37 kWh per 100 miles. Thankfully I'm still on a cheap deal with Octopus (15p per kWh during the day, 5p at night), so assuming I average at around 10p per kWh (as I charge over the evening and night), it's costing me about £3.70 in fuel per 100m. As opposed to maybe £35 if I was using the (petrol) Maser or Porsche, or £25 if I was using the (diesel) Rangie. (Or around £60 if I braved using the classic V12!)

When I finish my current electricity deal, my Octopus prices are due to move to approximately 35p during the day and 20p at night. Let's say 27p per kWh as an average, given my usual charging schedule. That will mean the 100 mile trip will cost £10. Which is still a good saving, so I'm happy enough with that despite the current energy crisis.

We've had the E-Tron 22 months now and covered 22,500 miles. The real-World range is about 215 miles in the summer, and 195 miles in the winter. We've still never charged it anywhere other than at home. So while we'd not have it as an only car, as a vehicle to do the daily grind of school runs, shopping, modest distance commutes, etc, it's been excellent.

Just thought I'd post this up here as a real-World update/example of our personal experience of EV ownership, in case it's useful to anyone.
 

Oneball

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I've been using the E-Tron 55 Quattro for the last week for a 100 mile daily commute to Southampton and back. It's averaging 37 kWh per 100 miles. Thankfully I'm still on a cheap deal with Octopus (15p per kWh during the day, 5p at night), so assuming I average at around 10p per kWh (as I charge over the evening and night), it's costing me about £3.70 in fuel per 100m. As opposed to maybe £35 if I was using the (petrol) Maser or Porsche, or £25 if I was using the (diesel) Rangie. (Or around £60 if I braved using the classic V12!)

When I finish my current electricity deal, my Octopus prices are due to move to approximately 35p during the day and 20p at night. Let's say 27p per kWh as an average, given my usual charging schedule. That will mean the 100 mile trip will cost £10. Which is still a good saving, so I'm happy enough with that despite the current energy crisis.

We've had the E-Tron 22 months now and covered 22,500 miles. The real-World range is about 215 miles in the summer, and 195 miles in the winter. We've still never charged it anywhere other than at home. So while we'd not have it as an only car, as a vehicle to do the daily grind of school runs, shopping, modest distance commutes, etc, it's been excellent.

Just thought I'd post this up here as a real-World update/example of our personal experience of EV ownership, in case it's useful to anyone.

What have you had to do service wise in that time?
 

RodTungsten

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I've been using the E-Tron 55 Quattro for the last week for a 100 mile daily commute to Southampton and back. It's averaging 37 kWh per 100 miles. Thankfully I'm still on a cheap deal with Octopus (15p per kWh during the day, 5p at night), so assuming I average at around 10p per kWh (as I charge over the evening and night), it's costing me about £3.70 in fuel per 100m. As opposed to maybe £35 if I was using the (petrol) Maser
Similar with our runabout Renault Zoe. 21,000 miles in 26 months. Almost all on Octopus Go (14/5p and now 30/7.5p). Occasional free or paid public charges as a contingency on trips to Exeter/Fylde/London when more than 2 seats or capacity required (can’t fit grandkids or bee boxes in the Spyder) maybe another £50. Usually 4-5miles per kWh and 2 services at ~£100, a tyre plug, 10 litres of screen wash and a trip to fix airbag issue (door) and that’s all so far. I’d say £700 tops for those miles. Now I know that this does not account for purchase cost/depreciation etc but we are likely to run this into the ground - battery is warranted for another 5.5 years.
 

Tallman

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I’ve had my i3 for about 6 months now, done 10k km (6k miles) with it, mostly with a smile on my face. It averages 15.5kWh/100km which is 24,8kWh per 100m. All charged from a normal plug overnight. For us the running cost works out about 1/5 of what it would have done on Petrol or diesel and of course less device cost (oil change and let brake pads/disks). Overall very happy with the car. A round trip to Cape Town is about 65miles so that’s a doddle range wise. I could easily do it twice and still have range to spare.
 

philw696

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One service at £300. Don’t think they actually did anything though, other than wash it and charge me £300! Though maybe I’m just cynical.
There would have been several software ECU updates done and they take time trust me.
 

Wack61

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Surely older EV’s will depreciate quicker than newer ones as the tech increases and range etc becomes greater……

Its not hard to foresee a scenario where no-ones interested in your old EV with its old tech as it’ll be a bit of a lemon.

I think that's already the case , 2012 car for £4500 with under 10k on the clock but you can only go 30 miles in any direction if you want to get back without having to charge it up , range 60-70 miles

I cant see anyone wanting thst
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Italiano

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Booooo and with an added hissssss

And that age I'll be past giving a monkey's ( couldn't find a stronger emoji in here to vent my anger)

I'll be driving my V8 around, my stand of defiance against a world where personal choice is now an evil word and you are bullied by the public to change your opinion.

A conspiracy of government to set off a chain reaction of prices escalating to a point that ICE cars will be hugely overpriced and will fall into the realms of profiteering scoundrels who will loose no sleep in selling unroadworthy vehicles to unsuspecting buyers desperate for cheap transportation as the industry will be in freefall.

But hey I'm just voicing an opinion which I'm sure will also be made illegal on the near future, after all, how dare the people have a view and choice in how they spend their money.

Nicely falls into the realms of government orchestrating a policy that dictates where you are allowed to spend your money as they want Epayment to take over cash.


Wow I've opened the barn door people :lol:,
enjoy whatever follows on from this :boss: