Dartford Tolls abolished!

2b1ask1

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Given that the UK Government reneged on the promise that the tolls would be scrapped when the bridge was paid for, which it was by 2003, please feel free to add your name to this petition to get it done. Note the excuse given was the tolls were maintained to 'allow traffic flow to be controlled' (really don't see how this would have ever worked) and yet even this excuse was perpetuated when the stop free 'free flow' system was introduced!

Petition here

I have no doubt at all it will be further perpetuated in advance of the lower crossing for exactly the same myth (if it is ever built)...
 

Lozzer

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On the back of just being legally robbed by these dandy highwaymen......Done.
 

GeoffCapes

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Given that it needs a few hundred million quids worth of work in the next few years, you’ve got more chance of seeing Jesus than the tolls being scrapped!

I’ll sign it though. Would save me a few hundred quid a year.
 

CatmanV2

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Given that it needs a few hundred million quids worth of work in the next few years, you’ve got more chance of seeing Jesus than the tolls being scrapped!

I’ll sign it though. Would save me a few hundred quid a year.

It won't though, will it? The only money the government have is ours. If (HUUUUUUGE if) they abolished that, the money would still have to come from somewhere else. If anything it just makes it easier to target and deflect public opposition. Instead of complaining about (for example) homelessness, human rights abuses or something that is actually 'important' the public can be relied upon to get uptight about the tolls. ;)

Not that I don't think they should be abolished, mind! Just being realistic.

C
 

rockits

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Surely they must have a few quid in the coffers already from the over charging for some years?
 

Lozzer

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I can't believe they charge to get into the place over the bridge anyway, fair enough, the tunnel charge to get out ........
 

zagatoes30

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Done but I doubt it make much difference and to be honest most times we cross we do so for free due to having a disability classed vehicle
 

Spartacus

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Same cr4p as we get from Southampton council about the toll on the Itchen Bridge. It was supposed to stop once it was paid for . That was in about 1980 lol
 
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Wack61

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M25 ,captive market, no realistic alternative so they've got you by the conkers.

I had the misfortune to have to drive through Birmingham a few times just before Christmas, I'm in a van so the return trip on the toll toad is £22.60 so along with everybody else who has to pay it out of their own pocket I'm chugging along on the M6.

If, as we're constantly being told cars are bad for the environment and public health why is the toll road not free, I'd think 70% of the traffic on the M6 is just passing through and engines are much less polluting when driven at a constant speed so if they cared at all about the environment and public health in one day they could reduce the pollution levels in birmingham by taking the tolls off.

But they won't because it's all about the money
 

BuckRog64

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Done it. Still don't understand how the anti clockwise jam seems to have got longer since toll collection automated.
 

Oneball

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If the money doesn't come form the charge it will come from elsewhere, the South East's infrastructure is already disproportional over funded compared with the rest of the country, I for one won't be signing it.
 

CatmanV2

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Done it. Still don't understand how the anti clockwise jam seems to have got longer since toll collection automated.

I think what happens is they stack up all the tankers that need to go through. When they hit critical mass, the stop all the cars and smaller traffic, escort all the tankers / haszchems through and then let all the cars through. Doesn't take long to get a couple of miles of tailback.

I could be completely wrong, of course, but several times I've been travelling in low traffic conditions only to come to a dead halt on the crossing approach. Then, just as suddenly everything moves again. And there are traffic lights....

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midlifecrisis

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They abolished the tolls on the two bridges to Wales across a wide estuary with the largest tide, so why not the bridge over a piddling stream? I'll sign it.
 

Andyk

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They abolished the tolls on the two bridges to Wales across a wide estuary with the largest tide, so why not the bridge over a piddling stream? I'll sign it.

They sure did.....and just to make you feel better Newton that's saved me £120 a month.
 

2b1ask1

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Something near to 40% of my working life has been south of the river, I bet if I move there in a couple of years the work will go north!
 

Goodfella

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Given that it needs a few hundred million quids worth of work in the next few years, you’ve got more chance of seeing Jesus than the tolls being scrapped!

I’ll sign it though. Would save me a few hundred quid a year.

Can’t help but to keep coming back to gods county a?