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Ewan

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Of those three I’d want the maroon GT (if it’s a manual version). It might not be the best, but it looks the best.
 

Ewan

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@ian roberts provided the car - it’s an auto
And therein lies the problem. It’s virtually impossible to find a good UK RHD GT manual. With about 22 UK Cup cars still out there, they are far more common and easier to buy. But I no longer like the look of the Cup and would much prefer a GT.
Maybe I’ll eventually end up buying a Cup but changing the wheels, fuel flap, steering wheel and gear knob to make it look like a GT. That would make the best road going Ghibli for my taste.
 

Ewan

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Lovely car. But I already have a 1999 GT auto Ghibli, so hanker after a manual as it’s partner.
 

Nayf

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And therein lies the problem. It’s virtually impossible to find a good UK RHD GT manual. With about 22 UK Cup cars still out there, they are far more common and easier to buy. But I no longer like the look of the Cup and would much prefer a GT.
Maybe I’ll eventually end up buying a Cup but changing the wheels, fuel flap, steering wheel and gear knob to make it look like a GT. That would make the best road going Ghibli for my taste.
There is that green GT manual I mentioned that’s coming up for sale, recently done up by Emblem.
 

Ewan

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Yep - I know the car, and went to the auction to inspect/buy it when it first came up. But a Ghibli that has lived outside on the street in Pimlico for 20 years isn’t the one for me. Unless, of course, someone has recently lavished £20k plus on a proper refurb...
 

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Yes I’ve seen the car and agree with Ewan about how much spend was required. Be interesting to see if they’ve procured new rear lights which are NLA.
 

del mar 2

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My copy as now at last turned up.

Acceleration figures.
Open Cup 4.1 seconds weight 1270kg
Cup 5.6 seconds weight 1365kg
Same power and torque figures quoted.

Are we accepting that a 100kg weight saving knocks 1.5 seconds of the time ?
Or is it more likely that the factory just invented figures ?
 

Oneball

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100kg is quite a lot. Plus tyres, diff, clutch all make a lot of difference. Tyres especially, all these Nurburgring records and supercars/electric cars doing silly 0-60 times is mainly down to tyres. If they had road tyres on the Cup and race tyres on the Open Cup you could probably knock a second off with everything else the same.
 

del mar 2

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What diff does the OC run ?
I have the Auto one in mine which in theory gives a bit more acceleration.

Would a modern Michelin tyre now be deemed better than a 26 year old slick ?
 

Oneball

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Irrespective of final drive ratio you’d increase the preload and possibly ramp angles on the LSD in the race car, so you’d be less likely to get wheelspin.

Better is relative, Cup 2s are properly sticky.
 

Nayf

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The gearing and the way it delivered its power - even from the passenger seat - was rather different to the road cars. Boost seemed to come in harder lower down the rev range. Of course that’s a restored car so may be different to how they were set up originally.
Modern tyre compounds will knock seconds off a laptime, I’d imagine. The Open Cup on the day was on PS4s IIRC