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78910€ + 6%.
This car was for sale @Auto Veloce Roma, asking price was 125k, quite a difference.
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1991 Maserati Shamal - 3.2 (1 di 369)

Maserati Shamal 1 di 369 prodotti Auto molto rara disegnata dal Maestro Marcello Gandini e apice assoluto dell’ epoca Maserati De Tomaso, oggi la Shamal con i suoi bassissimi numeri di produzione è’ tra le pochissime Maserati moderne dal vero valore collezionistico. L’auto è in fase di...
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I'm not sure "collecting cars" is the best place to sell a maserati, their loss.
 
gemini said:
78910€ + 6%.
This car was for sale @Auto Veloce Roma, asking price was 125k, quite a difference.
www.classicdriver.com

1991 Maserati Shamal - 3.2 (1 di 369)

Maserati Shamal 1 di 369 prodotti Auto molto rara disegnata dal Maestro Marcello Gandini e apice assoluto dell’ epoca Maserati De Tomaso, oggi la Shamal con i suoi bassissimi numeri di produzione è’ tra le pochissime Maserati moderne dal vero valore collezionistico. L’auto è in fase di...
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I'm not sure "collecting cars" is the best place to sell a maserati, their loss.
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I’d say that’s actually a fair price for a Shamal with ‘normal’ miles.

The black one at Gooding Paris had done very little miles and the final figure was bolstered by auction fees twice that of CC. So I’d say that the original dealer price was fanciful.
I’ve been keeping an eye on European Shamals and the same cars were for sale for six months above €100,000.
 
Values follow generations - 1960’s cars dropping like a stone - 1970’s cars still holding - 1980’s 90’s mental and will be for a while.
Look back at PreWar 30’s 40’s and the. The post war 50’s and apart for proper “exotics” you can’t give them away and even the exotics are suffering.
When I buy a car - any car I discount it by 1/3 immediately and count that as money spent, that way I am never disappointed when I sell and sometimes very surprised.
 
Interesting comments Sam and certainly for our generation that was born in the 60's and it was the early part for me driving cars from the 70's 80's and 90's are the sweet spot for driving enjoyment especially European cars.
Straightforward maintenance too.
I'm glad I've driven older stuff from the 30's 40's and 50's but I've never bought a car from those days.
From the 60's my favourite is probably the Mini.
Certainly an interesting time to watch.
My son whose 35 and a fully qualified mechanic too including EV as he had no choice to stay employed drives older cars and is looking forward to getting his hands on mine one day :)
 
I've read in an article in one of the car mags that hobby cars are bought by people from 50 to 70 yo. They typically buy cars they saw in their youth or early adulthood, but couldn't afford back then due to house, family, kids and the entry level jobs i.e. building their life.

At the age we are all at, life's settled, kids grown / moved out and worked our way up the job ladder. That leaves time and financial means to purchase the cars we had hanging on the wall. It's like an inspector of one of my client's said: "When I was young I had time, but no money. Now I'm closing to retirement I have money but no time". He decided to cut work hours and pursue his hobbies and life.

So if you want to invest, look what cars people in their now late 30's early 40's had hanging on the walls and choose the rarest of them all. Conversely you can also predict which cars will devaluate, while when in the ol'folks home or pushing up daisies they won't need it anymore.

Me personally I'd rather buy a car I really want to drive. If it goes up fine, if not a hobby is allowed to cost money.
 
Absolutely Spot On James.
I have a Jaguar because my father always had them throughout his life along with many other cars to buy an XJ takes me back to memorable times.
The E24 BMW 628csi is pure fantasy for myself as back in the early 80's it cost new as much as my first house in the UK.
They were also driven by glamourus people and I loved to see them in the South of France not knowing then that one day I'd be living here and want to take it to those places albeit nearly 50 years later.
 
6.5K for a 90Kkm car, which is 4K in euros and 3.2K in GBP, give or take. Not bad (or sad depending how you look at it).

Japanese LHD is a bit strange. Does need some love though. Suspension and check engine light can be a few bucks issues or an eye watering, wallet draining saga.
But I think Dennis @DLax69 needs a 4th Maser. We'll support you al the way, with good (or hopeless) advice anyway ;)

On the bright side you'll save the shipping from the old continent to the new world...
 
Lovely looking car. Just a shame about the non-standard wheels and gear-knob. Though they are both easy fixes.
 
3hcp said:
How’s the XJS coming along?
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Arghhh not so good to be honest. It has an MOT now and is taxed, finally!

We had a rear main seal oil leak :(

Now the current issue is with the manual conversion. The spigot bush we had made is noisy on engagement, or the newly rebuilt rear diff is noisy. Gearbox been out twice. Gearbox is S/H but does not measure with excessive play.

Really dragging on to be honest and so much spent and I have yet to drive the car on the road.

As my life is so busy otherwise I've been able to be very patient about it. The guys working on it are apologetic and have drafted in some help.

Supposed to get an update yesterday but no cigar.

According to the posts above a 1992 car is at the least the right era for the value to not plummet I suppose. The facelift XJR-S is relatively rare.

Must not add up what spent etc :oops:
 
urquattrogus said:
Arghhh not so good to be honest. It has an MOT now and is taxed, finally!

We had a rear main seal oil leak :(

Now the current issue is with the manual conversion. The spigot bush we had made is noisy on engagement, or the newly rebuilt rear diff is noisy. Gearbox been out twice. Gearbox is S/H but does not measure with excessive play.

Really dragging on to be honest and so much spent and I have yet to drive the car on the road.

As my life is so busy otherwise I've been able to be very patient about it. The guys working on it are apologetic and have drafted in some help.

Supposed to get an update yesterday but no cigar.

According to the posts above a 1992 car is at the least the right era for the value to not plummet I suppose. The facelift XJR-S is relatively rare.

Must not add up what spent etc :oops:
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Out of interest, where are you having the work done? I had some work done by Mike at Corotec recently, and he mentioned that he had been restoring an XJS, and that it would be coming back in for more mechanical work. Sounded like it had been a big project!
 
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