Burnouts?

conaero

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Can any of you do this?

What's the technique and other than the obvious tyre shredding is there anything else that it stresses like the clutch?

Might do some practice for Arnage high street this Le Mans.
 

Grinzzz

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Never tried it in the maser - not having the clutch under control might cause it to be problematic, you might end up in a fight against the electronics. If I were to try it I'd probably go for rolling forward, ******* the right pedal while squeezing the brake a little. You need to con the electronics into thinking you're moving so it dumps the clutch, otherwise the smoke might be from that rather than the tyres.

Get some dunlops on the rears, judging by how my fronts behaved they'd probably be great for burnouts!

Provided you hook it up right it wont damage the clutch or anything much other than tyre wear and wear on the rear brakes. If you dont get the tyres spinning quickly then clutch, box and diff all get additional stress that they're not really designed for.
 

Brendan

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I think i will give this a miss. My clutch is already wearing at an alarming rate, 20% in 4000 miles.
 

mjheathcote

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Just stab the throttle from standstill, the rear wheels will happily spin away!
Found out by accident trying to get away quickly on an open pit lane trackday.
I have heard though that the later gearbox firmware tries to prevent this, but It appears that mine is still the original, Classico, firmware...I'm not upgrading...I prefer to be in control!
 

cobratwin

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Yeah just give it the lead foot from a stand still, the clutch should be fine as it is complely disengaged from 3k +rpm and ull fly past there, if there's a damp or wet road the. All the better, but make sure no one is in front of you Just incase your car does fine some traction and ur wheels are spinning at 100pmh !!!
 

Grinzzz

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Just incase your car does fine some traction and ur wheels are spinning at 100pmh !!!
Thats why you keep the left foot on the brake :)

Is the 3k rpm bit definite? So if I hold say 4k and then click it into first what happens?
 

mjheathcote

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Okay I have unintentionally spun up the rear wheels, but its something I don't really want to do normally for I always feel for the gearbox and clutch, even if the clutch is fully engaged!
 

cobratwin

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I assume you mean from neutral, the clutch will engage the first gear will be selected then the rpm Will drop to sub 3k at a guess I'd say to about 1.5-2k the. The clutch will stay engaged untill you hit 3k again at that point it will disengage
 

cobratwin

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Thats why you keep the left foot on the brake :)

Is the 3k rpm bit definite? So if I hold say 4k and then click it into first what happens?
If your wheels are spinning at 100+ or even 70+ and you have your foot on the brake if and when the tyres grab traction you think it's not going to lunge forward?
 

safrane

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If you drive with your feet on both pedals you will get a cambio cosa error light after three seconds..

yes you can pull away with a spin if the MSP is off bit in a straight line on a dry road it will not be too long.
 

Grinzzz

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Hmm so probably need about 5 - 6k held, click for first, while squeezing the brake pedal enough to hold it on the front brake. Give it a go and report back Matt :)

Spinning the wheels up to create smoke on a get away is easy. Fair bit harder to do a burnout - which to me means spinning the wheels while stationary.
 

cobratwin

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Yeah if you want as little clutch as possible Your going to have to get it close to the redline before hitting first
 

Mr.Cambio

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don't want to try it in the maser. Did do this though in an older M5, at a driving techiques seminar. It needs a good knowledge of how the gas pedal works, cause it;s the most important thing to keep burning out going. It will give you car control while you're killing your tyres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxMIg7v4i-Y in this video, get your speakers on and you will notice how the guy is coping with the gas. I have done a drift seminar as well, but i prefer high performance ones (lines, fast steering etc).
 

Grinzzz

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If your wheels are spinning at 100+ or even 70+ and you have your foot on the brake if and when the tyres grab traction you think it's not going to lunge forward?
Yup it will, but the chances of getting any traction while the wheels are spinning and the car is stationary is negligible. I've done it quite a few times (in M3's and even the lotus) and never had a problem, the traction actually increases as the wheels slow and at that point you shove the clutch in and brake hard.

Wouldnt be surprised if Safrane is right, fair few modern cars will even cut the throttle if the brake is in :(
 
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cobratwin

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Very true but never forget Murphy's law :) .
I'm fairly sure on the 3200's you can pull the traction fuse and this will prevent the car form interfering, also on the early 4200's not so sure about the facelift 4200 though.
 

mjheathcote

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Honestly, no revs, select first, hit the throttle, wheels spin with lots of revs!
You dont need any of this brake/rev/select first stuff, not with mine anyway!
 

Grinzzz

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Just had a look on the tube. Couldn't find any F430 burnouts that didnt start with the car rolling. Not saying it's impossible from stationary, just not something I'd like to try!
 

Grinzzz

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Honestly, no revs, select first, hit the throttle, wheels spin with lots of revs!
You dont need any of this brake/rev/select first stuff, not with mine anyway!
Thats easy, but I call that a wheel-spin. A burnout is when the car is stationary or almost so. Like this....http://youtu.be/rSwOTV-jbns. That fits my definition of a burnout, I assume Matt means the same as I'd guess he learnt how to spin up the wheels on a get away a long time ago!
 
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