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MrMickS

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Hardball?
No deal back on table?

Pound falls on report Johnson planning new Brexit deadline
The British pound fell on Tuesday after reports UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson was seeking a hard line on Britain's transition period after Brexit, effectively creating a new cliff in its negotiations with Brussels.

Read in Reuters UK: https://apple.news/AUcojL7WKT6eq8Uu_uJkNHA

Never saw that coming...

No deal was always on the table. The election was the way to engineer it. Pass Johnson's deal by the end of Jan. Then there are 6-7 months to negotiate a deal in order to have something ratified by the 31 Dec 2020. There is no chance of that so we will leave at the end of next year without a deal. All the fault of the EU obviously.
 

Wattie

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GeoffCapes

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Hardball?
No deal back on table?

Pound falls on report Johnson planning new Brexit deadline
The British pound fell on Tuesday after reports UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson was seeking a hard line on Britain's transition period after Brexit, effectively creating a new cliff in its negotiations with Brussels.

Read in Reuters UK: https://apple.news/AUcojL7WKT6eq8Uu_uJkNHA

Something is certainly afoot.

I believe Boris is trying to make it illegal to prolong Brexit beyond the end of next year.
Which could be a great bargaining tool. Unless he WANTS a hard Brexit?
 

BennyD

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I’m glad to see that BJ is still playing hardball. No Deal is a fundamental bargaining tool as is the dead line he is putting in place. Without it, the EU were looking at anything up to 3.5 years of negotiations while we are still paying their fees. This will force the issue to get a mutually beneficial deal in place before the end of next year. The combination of these two factors is, in effect, a diplomatic cattle prod.
 

Wattie

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I honestly believe that he doesn’t want a hard Brexit but without the threat, the EU have nothing to force their hand.
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It is not in Europe’s interests to allow anyone to leave with favourable terms. That would encourage others.
Therefore you need a threat to seek a fair resolution- not a one sided list of what they are prepared to give.
Europe is worried about the UK becoming a competitive threat.

Would I be right in saying that “no deal” is by law, off the table after last year’s shenanigans, so this potential new deadline for trade talks being put into law effectively creates the same cliff face, only potentially more powerful as a date is in place beyond where the UK leaves.
Regardless.

As Geoff has said, if its put in play, it is now in both sides interests to agree a mutually beneficial trade deal.
And move on.
 

CatmanV2

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AIUI 'no deal' was, and basically can never be 'off the table' It's just a matter of when in the proceedings.

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Andyk

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That's a load of ******** Phil.....What is he saying ...no one should shop at Harrods......So what if there is a delivery. Harrods have done some great work over their history with the homeless etc.....Without people buying their over priced stuff that wouldn't have happened.

What pisses me off is that Boris is in with a majority but the ones that didn't want this still go on and on and on. He has 5 years to show us what he can do. Give him a chance I say and then if he doesn't deliver then they can say told you so......What a shame that we can't all come together as a country now that a majority government has been voted in and see what great things we can now do.
 
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CatmanV2

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That's a load of **** Phil.....What is he saying ...no one should shop at Harrods......So what if there is a delivery. Harrods have done some great work over their history with the homeless etc.....Without people buying their over priced stuff that wouldn't have happened.

What pisses me off is that Boris is in with a majority but the ones that didn't want this still go on and on and on. He has 5 years to show us what he can do. Give him a chance I say and then if he doesn't deliver then they can say told you so......What a shame that we can't all come together as a country now that a majority government has been voted in and see what great things we can now do.

Totally agree. Clearly the finer things in life should be reserved for union leaders:
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In seriousness Boris earns £158k as pm. If he wants to spend some of that at Harrods, why the **** not?

Last article I could find was 2014 and indicated Len was on £148k, so again, if he wants to eat at the Ivy?

OTOH I do personally struggle to see what side of the fence he's on when it comes to defending the underpaid working man from the elite....

C
 

philw696

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What upsets me is one in three kids in poverty and that will probably get worse.
A few on here say don't have kids.
A few of us on here do charitable things which I applaud.
All of us on here doing okay.
I'm very lucky that I can do exactly as I like and I do not have loads of money but I have freedom and zero debt which I value highly with good health.
I really hope Boris is a Genius and can do what he has said he will do.
I don't mean to cause offence.
 

conaero

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Totally agree. Clearly the finer things in life should be reserved for union leaders:
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In seriousness Boris earns £158k as pm. If he wants to spend some of that at Harrods, why the **** not?

Last article I could find was 2014 and indicated Len was on £148k, so again, if he wants to eat at the Ivy?

OTOH I do personally struggle to see what side of the fence he's on when it comes to defending the underpaid working man from the elite....

C
£158k for running the country and taking all the **** he does seems like a bit of a bargain if you ask me. In the private sector he would be earning x10 that figure.
 

JJbing

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He used to work in the private sector as journalist but was sacked for making things up, guess there was only one job for him to go for after that!

He wasn’t sacked was he.

You’d have to pay me a lot more than £158k to be a PM, or to be an MP for that matter.
 

Oneball

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He wasn’t sacked was he.

You’d have to pay me a lot more than £158k to be a PM, or to be an MP for that matter.

Yes, early in his career he was sacked from the Times for making things up. He was the one who made the EU straight banana thing up. According to his editor at the time he was too lazy to do any proper research so just made it up.
 

JJbing

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I thought his only “sacking” was his disagreement with Andrew Neil in when he became the editor of the spectator.

Might explain why he didn’t want that interview!!