Brexit Deal

jasst

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It's a very difficult one, swore I would never vote for any of the lying, cheating, two faced bas****s again after Brexit fiasco, but as someone who has voted Tory in every election since 1979, I'm worried that by not voting I could be letting the Lib Dems in by the back door as I live in a constituency where they have a strong showing (that spineless git Letwins constituency, thank god he's not standing again), so I am completely undecided at the moment.
 

Felonious Crud

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It's a very difficult one, swore I would never vote for any of the lying, cheating, two faced bas****s again after Brexit fiasco, but as someone who has voted Tory in every election since 1979, I'm worried that by not voting I could be letting the Lib Dems in by the back door as I live in a constituency where they have a strong showing (that spineless git Letwins constituency, thank god he's not standing again), so I am completely undecided at the moment.

I think it's fair to say that most voters, whoever they vote for, will be holding their noses as they put a reluctant cross in the least-**** box of their ballot papers.
 

MarkMas

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It's a very difficult one, swore I would never vote for any of the lying, cheating, two faced bas****s again after Brexit fiasco, but as someone who has voted Tory in every election since 1979, I'm worried that by not voting I could be letting the Lib Dems in by the back door as I live in a constituency where they have a strong showing (that spineless git Letwins constituency, thank god he's not standing again), so I am completely undecided at the moment.

Everybody knows it is all about voting tactically against the party you hate the most in your constituency, and putting up with the outcome.
 

Wanderer

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I'm voting Sinn Féin here in Finglas (Dublin) to persuade them to take up their WM seats and agree to a DUP-style confidence and supply with Corbyn and wait for the shitstorm, and Tory outcry....
 

doodlebug

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And that number means absolutely nothing, though

I mean if there were say >20% it might cause something of a stir, but it's just not how the system works

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Maybe it should. Belgium had no government for 589 days and NI has had no government for 1042 days and counting. It doesn't seem to have done either of them any harm. In fact, I'd say it's done them a lot less harm than that caused by the shysters we currently have in power have done. Let the civil servants get on with it as Sir Humphrey Appleby said.
 

Wattie

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Spoil your ballot paper?

Most people I know are doing this. I don't know if it will have any effect but maybe if enough people do it they might bring in something akin to the system in Australia.
I think far more would be achieved and a resounding message sent if every single disenchanted voter voted for their local nutter. Ie raving looney.
It would send a clear message to current politicians if several were elected up and down the country by huge thousand vote majorities
Who knows, “tickling sticks” and “fart cushions” could soon make a rather humorous appearance in the HOP to liven things up.
 
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lifes2short

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:lol:, there's actually a website

 

Phil the Brit

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Well done to Labour party for finally acknowledging the injustice done to the Waspi women. You just got my and my wife's vote.
Johnson said paying up was "too expensive". What kind of reason is that to not pay. If you owe it, pay up.
 

MarkMas

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Well done to Labour party for finally acknowledging the injustice done to the Waspi women. You just got my and my wife's vote.
Johnson said paying up was "too expensive". What kind of reason is that to not pay. If you owe it, pay up.

I understand that nobody wants to 'lose out' on some taxpayer-funded benefit to which they feel entitled, but I thought the position was that the Government did have the power to change the pension arrangements, given changes to lifespans and given that they had provided 15-30 years of notice. The WASPI went to Court arguing that the change was not well enough communicated and the notice period was too short, and lost. So you can really only argue that 'they' 'owe it', if you take the position that no benefit should ever change, or that the Court was wrong to rule the way they did.