Further to the above.....Brexit party doesn’t stand, votes go to Tories.
Or they stand and a coalition is formed.
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The current situation seems to be stalemate, no negotiation, we’re not moving, by the Eu.
Frankly, that’s because at the moment the Eu can see that their negotiation is being done by a section of UK MP’s who now say “no deal” is unconstitutional, and want to thwart it. Even tho, they all voted for A50.The Eu hopes this succeeds! Remainers do too.
As a leaver, and i’d be interested what others leaver think (we’re clearly in the minority on the forum and I understand if you wanna keep out of the thread) but I’ve always felt from day 1 that our elected representatives didn’t really give it a chance and that was the disappointing thing, until the recent PM change.
I now detect a resolve that frankly should have been there 3 years ago.
My views are that this isn’t about “no deal”. It’s about stopping Brexit. It’s totally ridiculous to expect the Eu who doesn’t want us to leave to offer us a deal if that is our position.surely everyone can see that.
It also seems odd to me to suggest that a democratic result, supported by parliament via invoking A50 is now unconstitutional. It seems even odder to me that our Mp’s are now opposing such and effectively siding with those we are trying to obtain a better deal with. Isn’t that treasonous?
My view is that is a betrayal of the result and I know that remainers will argue that everyone has their own definition of leave.
I accept that.
But we were ONLY asked to vote on leave or remain. The fault is undoubtably the detail in the question, but the answer was clear. Leave, won. No interpretation of what that meant, just leave.
After all,Mp’s invoked A50 on that basis- then chose to interpret it. Brexit Mp’s as mentioned above were even blamed for the failure of Mays deal, ridiculous as it wasn’t leaving but they were criticised by some saying if you’d supported it we’d be out by now. We wouldn’t be out and remainers should be pleased that Mays deal wasn’t put through too, by those that stood firm....even in desperate times. Jesus, Johnson and others supported it at one point out of desperation, thank goodness it didn’t go through.
Think of all the time that MAY used up, 3,4,5 months with that atrocious proposal. Promising change, nothing, trying to force the Uk into an Eu dominated treaty....as the clocked ticked down. Think of how the Eu could have killed us off, no deal out the window, she asked for an extension. They should have said no, they didn’t, unbelievable cos at that point Mp’s would have had to revoke A50.
Now look at what they face.
Stories of Corbyn getting in a taxi and visiting the Queen to block such is hard to swallow.
Each and everyone of these individuals were responsible for putting the legal default in place, if no deal is negotiated.
What a mess, what a shambles and a disgrace. What a tragedy!
I still believe they’ll blink but I’m appalled at what some Mp’s are doing. They are trying to sabotage the only negotiating position we ever had.