Brexit Deal
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philw696
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Not funny at all and best you stay down under mate.
Wattie
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JonW
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HHhmmm - this is a tricky dilemma isn’t it? What to do when there are multiple options, different choices, and when those elected to power are unsure about what those who elected them would support?....
Surely, in all the time that democracy has been around, you would have thought there had been a solution to such a scenario?.....
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I’m not sure there will ever be a clear majority in the House or the Country for any of the options available to the UK, particularly once those in favor of Brexit are split between a no deal Brexit and any EU negotiated deal available, which now may not look significantly different to May’s deal. This has been the problem all along and I do not see what has or will change. In the meantime, all this uncertainty is weakening the UK’s economy, costing £bns and jobs. As one originally in favour of leaving the EU, I wonder if it is time we now abandoned this interminably damaging fiasco.
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Certainly not.
Wattie
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Well,HHhmmm - this is a tricky dilemma isn’t it? What to do when there are multiple options, different choices, and when those elected to power are unsure about what those who elected them would support?....
Surely, in all the time that democracy has been around, you would have thought there had been a solution to such a scenario?.....
They all invoked article 50 to deliver Brexit.
No-one protested when “No deal is better than a bad deal” was first mentioned, not a single howl of disapproval.....in fact they all (Hammond et al) were seen applauding it.
Oh, now, now it’s a different story. Now it’s not such a good idea.... we should have taken that diabolical deal over no deal.
Umm, No.
No Deal is better than a diabolical deal. In the process we can get rid of all the self servers in Parliament at the same time
MaserCoupe
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Wattie, What the same self servers like the ERG? Who aren’t interested in anything but their self serving selves. The same ERG Who blew it by playing hardball. The country would have been out by now but no, they want to treat this like a war and winner takes all. That was the Tory demise by Pandering to those hardliners, by putting Party over Country. They couldn’t agree on what they wanted, didn’t reach out and are out of touch with the everyday man. So Brexit has now slipped through their fingers.
Then of course let’s not forget the hypocrite Brexiteer MEP’s who are making such a massive sacrifice, all on principle of course by living and working in Europe and enjoying the benefits of that, that’s a really a massive personal sacrifice! Or the apparently “principled” advocates of leaving the EU while simultaneously applying for their residencies and or making sure their businesses are securely based in Europe.
Thank God for Sovereign Parliament, thank God for people like Gina Miller and her court case in forcing the Government to make sure that we get a say and not get steam rolled by con artists!!
Then of course let’s not forget the hypocrite Brexiteer MEP’s who are making such a massive sacrifice, all on principle of course by living and working in Europe and enjoying the benefits of that, that’s a really a massive personal sacrifice! Or the apparently “principled” advocates of leaving the EU while simultaneously applying for their residencies and or making sure their businesses are securely based in Europe.
Thank God for Sovereign Parliament, thank God for people like Gina Miller and her court case in forcing the Government to make sure that we get a say and not get steam rolled by con artists!!
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Please explain cos as far as i’m aware the only way out was Mays deal and that was rejected by hundreds of Mp’s on both sides of the house who fortunately still retained some intelligence.
The ERG didn’t get a sniff at negotiation, nor to dictate the terms of it and they certainly wouldn’t have come back with that appalling POS.
Phil the Brit
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God help the new PM. Same problem will exist for years. Might never be fixable.
MaserCoupe
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So David Davis and Dominic Raab not hardline enough for you, it was their plan to begin with and to negotiate and they did sweet F. A....and all the while getting the support of the ERG...
yep another Brexiteer who looks for a scapegoat on why it’s gone so badly.Brexit is dead, long live Brexit. Look at what these idiots have reduced this country and it’s populous to!
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lifes2short
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exactly mate, it's so easy to talk the talk but can he/she/it walk the walk!
Wattie
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Ahh now I’m with you, I suggest you read their resignation letters.So David Davis and Dominic Raab not hardline enough for you, it was their plan to begin with and to negotiate and they did sweet F. A....and all the while getting the support of the ERG...
Brexit is dead, long live Brexit. Look at what these idiots have reduced this country and it’s populous to!
Clearly the idiot May ignored all their advice and did her own thing, lying hundreds of time along the way.
Wattie
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I reckon the 2 old blundering parties have this issue, but not the new one rising from the ashes that’s committed to delivering Brexit.
MaserCoupe
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You reckon....But are you sure?! So How do you suppose Farage is going to unite a country, what policies does he have in place for Education, poverty, people living on the street, housing? Anything? Where’s his stance on immigration? What’s his business policy, what’s his strategic policy on security? What’s his policy on climate change, on fossil fuels, green energy? Can you tell me his policies on how he’ll stop corruption and organised crime?
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He’s currently working on the SMDRP manifesto- minimalist (Brexit only just now) which means no disappointed voters.
People appear to like that- it means you’re not getting fecked over.
Unlike the others who promise the earth on all the matters you mention and then do feck all.
The country is split. Dusted.
No-ones gonna reunite it so according to democracy the highest vote wins. Remoaners still need to get their heads around this principle though cos it’s currenty 2-0.
Referendum-1nil
Eu elections- 2 nil
General Election- Farage on a hat trick!
People appear to like that- it means you’re not getting fecked over.
Unlike the others who promise the earth on all the matters you mention and then do feck all.
The country is split. Dusted.
No-ones gonna reunite it so according to democracy the highest vote wins. Remoaners still need to get their heads around this principle though cos it’s currenty 2-0.
Referendum-1nil
Eu elections- 2 nil
General Election- Farage on a hat trick!
MaserCoupe
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Nah, all he’s working on is extracting more money out of people with false hope and undeliverable promises. Minimalist manifesto, I think I would concur its a Short sighted and limited vision from yet another failed businessman who renages on his responsibilities and who doesn’t pay his taxes or declares his funding. Yep, fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
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nobend farage doesn't give a **** about the UK, his only interest is in making a sh1t load of money for himself from his Russian friends and then just disappearing once this shitstorm is over, look at UKIP he fooked off after the referendum vowing never to return because of all the abuse his family was getting, didn't have a fooking clue how to actually implement brexit, paraded by trump as his muppet and here he is again on the scene, I think he enjoys all this media attention and not to mention the money he's accumulating