Brexit Deal

GeoffCapes

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Maybe you should organise a petition View attachment 55542

or a march

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Or a political group.
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The fact that the above is your response, suggests you haven't a factual, or relevant response to my comments.
This is something I have noticed more and more as the weeks have gone on from the leave camp.

When pertinent points are raised, the same responses get regurgitated "we won the vote" " organise a petition" "organise a march" "leave means leave" "a second vote goes against democracy" "do we keep voting until you win?"

None of which answer the points.

Then we get absolute silence when things which are going on like the M20 lorry park are mentioned. The fact that the Kent economy will be severely damaged by Brexit.
The fact that the devaluation of the pound means everything we import will cost more (and I don't just mean from Europe, as that will cost even more!).
The fact that no one on the leave side wants to make an issue of these things suggest that all they have to cling to (to quote Wattie) is "we won the vote fair and square".
When in fact you didn't even win that 'fair and square'.

And the leave camp wonder why May can't get a deal through Parliament!
That's because EVERY deal will be to the detriment of the country and it's economy. Our MP's know this.
It's like a turkey voting for Christmas.

*I'd just like to point out the above wasn't a singular dig at Wattie, it's a dig at the whole leave camp.
And for the record, I think Kangaroo steaks are rather nice!
 

Wattie

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Then we get absolute silence when things which are going on like the M20 lorry park are mentioned. The fact that the Kent economy will be severely damaged by Brexit.
The fact that the devaluation of the pound means everything we import will cost more (and I don't just mean from Europe, as that will cost even more!).
The fact that no one on the leave side wants to make an issue of these things suggest that all they have to cling to (to quote Wattie) is "we won the vote fair and square".
When in fact you didn't even win that 'fair and square'.

And the leave camp wonder why May can't get a deal through Parliament!
That's because EVERY deal will be to the detriment of the country and it's economy. Our MP's know this.
It's like a turkey voting for Christmas.

*I'd just like to point out the above wasn't a singular dig at Wattie, it's a dig at the whole leave camp.
And for the record, I think Kangaroo steaks are rather nice!
Well, where to begin.

“The fact that the above is your response, suggests you haven't a factual, or relevant response to my comments.This is something I have noticed more and more as the weeks have gone on from the leave camp.When pertinent points are raised, the same responses get regurgitated "we won the vote" " organise a petition" "organise a march" "leave means leave" "a second vote goes against democracy" "do we keep voting until you win?"

I don’t recall anyone having to justify a previous vote result. Conservatives won. Nope i’m Not having that, please explain why you voted for them and not A n other. Not a valid result, until the losers approve it.

“Then we get absolute silence when things which are going on like the M20 lorry park are mentioned. The fact that the Kent economy will be severely damaged by Brexit.The fact that the devaluation of the pound means everything we import will cost more (and I don't just mean from Europe, as that will cost even more!).”

Possibly but only temporarily. The pound may plunge in the short term but that makes our goods and quality services cheaper for the rest of the world. The Uk will be inundated cos it’s cheap.
The Euro will plunge too...it’s ******. probably as much if not more so than £. Listen, I’m in finance and this € is bollox. Ponzi scheme.
I reckon equilibrium in favour of £.
Remember, the BOE can print money to assist the Uk. (Not the answer but let’s not get into that) the EU 27 countries have no control WHATSOEVER over monetory policy.....they are FICKED. The EU central bank, already dealing with a recession (Germany) will have to go full cocaine stimulus! The emperor has no clothes in Europe.

“The fact that no one on the leave side wants to make an issue of these things suggest that all they have to cling to (to quote Wattie) is "we won the vote fair and square".
When in fact you didn't even win that 'fair and square'.

Diddums

“And the leave camp wonder why May can't get a deal through Parliament!
That's because EVERY deal will be to the detriment of the country and it's economy. Our MP's know this.
It's like a turkey voting for Christmas”

Or Mp’s know **** all. This entire episode demonstrates it. They are so out of touch with the man and woman in the street it’s incredulous. People are fed up. I’m fed up.
That’s why we voted leave.
I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. We end up with Mays deal the Uk is toast. Twice rejected, but now acceptable. Are you ******* stupid!

“I'd just like to point out the above wasn't a singular dig at Wattie, it's a dig at the whole leave camp.And for the record, I think Kangaroo steaks are rather nice!“

Geoff, (Mark) it’s not taken personally and I sincerely hope you feel the same way.

In reality I think the SMDRP party 7 (inc 1 HRV appt) is the minority in our little family.
The SMUPPITS would have a far bigger following if people signed up.
(Probably still in bed!)

We’ve booked Salma though.......
 
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GeoffCapes

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Well, where to begin.

“The fact that the above is your response, suggests you haven't a factual, or relevant response to my comments.This is something I have noticed more and more as the weeks have gone on from the leave camp.When pertinent points are raised, the same responses get regurgitated "we won the vote" " organise a petition" "organise a march" "leave means leave" "a second vote goes against democracy" "do we keep voting until you win?"

I don’t recall anyone having to justify a previous vote result. Conservatives won. Nope i’m Not having that, please explain why you voted for them and not A n other. Not a valid result, until the losers approve it.

“Then we get absolute silence when things which are going on like the M20 lorry park are mentioned. The fact that the Kent economy will be severely damaged by Brexit.The fact that the devaluation of the pound means everything we import will cost more (and I don't just mean from Europe, as that will cost even more!).”

Possibly but only temporarily. The pound may plunge in the short term but that makes our goods and quality services cheaper for the rest of the world. The Uk will be inundated cos it’s cheap.
The Euro will plunge too...it’s **. probably as much if not more so than £. Listen, I’m in finance and this € is bollox. Ponzi scheme.
I reckon equilibrium in favour of £.
Remember, the BOE can print money to assist the Uk. (Not the answer but let’s not get into that) the EU 27 countries have no control WHATSOEVER over monetory policy.....they are FICKED. The EU central bank, already dealing with a recession (Germany) will have to go full cocaine stimulus! The emperor has no clothes in Europe.

“The fact that no one on the leave side wants to make an issue of these things suggest that all they have to cling to (to quote Wattie) is "we won the vote fair and square".
When in fact you didn't even win that 'fair and square'.

Diddums

“And the leave camp wonder why May can't get a deal through Parliament!
That's because EVERY deal will be to the detriment of the country and it's economy. Our MP's know this.
It's like a turkey voting for Christmas”

Or Mp’s know **** all. This entire episode demonstrates it. They are so out of touch with the man and woman in the street it’s incredulous. People are fed up. I’m fed up.
That’s why we voted leave.
I’ve said it before. I’ll say it again. We end up with Mays deal the Uk is toast. Twice rejected, but now acceptable. Are you *** stupid!

“I'd just like to point out the above wasn't a singular dig at Wattie, it's a dig at the whole leave camp.And for the record, I think Kangaroo steaks are rather nice!“

Geoff, (Mark) it’s not taken personally and I sincerely hope you feel the same way.

In reality I think the SMDRP party 7 (inc 1 HON appt) is the minority in our little family.
The SMUPPITS would have a far bigger following if people signed up.

We’ve booked Salma though.......

It was going so well until this:-

“The fact that no one on the leave side wants to make an issue of these things suggest that all they have to cling to (to quote Wattie) is "we won the vote fair and square".
When in fact you didn't even win that 'fair and square'.

Diddums


Which effectively is a confession (albeit one which would struggle stand up in court) that you know you won the referendum by using unfair means.
This is effectively the whole point of the "second vote" "things weren't told to us" "they lied" "£350m for the NHS big red bus" etc etc etc etc etc movement.

The whole leave campaign was built on lies, untruths and basically was a stitch up job which should never have stood (legally) even though it wasn't legally binding.
This is also the reason why Cameron allowed the referendum, because he knew that in a fair fight (so to speak) a leave vote would never win in a million years.

But we all know, campaigns are won on PR not on policies. But it leaves us now in a steaming pile of horse manure based upon a great PR campaign which told umpteen lies about how good things will be if we leave.
Sad to say the results of those lies are becoming clearer by the day.
 

lifes2short

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where the heck do some of you guys get all this info from
It was going so well until this:-

“The fact that no one on the leave side wants to make an issue of these things suggest that all they have to cling to (to quote Wattie) is "we won the vote fair and square".
When in fact you didn't even win that 'fair and square'.

Diddums


Which effectively is a confession (albeit one which would struggle stand up in court) that you know you won the referendum by using unfair means.
This is effectively the whole point of the "second vote" "things weren't told to us" "they lied" "£350m for the NHS big red bus" etc etc etc etc etc movement.

The whole leave campaign was built on lies, untruths and basically was a stitch up job which should never have stood (legally) even though it wasn't legally binding.
This is also the reason why Cameron allowed the referendum, because he knew that in a fair fight (so to speak) a leave vote would never win in a million years.

But we all know, campaigns are won on PR not on policies. But it leaves us now in a steaming pile of horse manure based upon a great PR campaign which told umpteen lies about how good things will be if we leave.
Sad to say the results of those lies are becoming clearer by the day.

well said that man:thumb3:
 

lifes2short

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by the way wattie, just notice my old dog is hot on your heels as top 25 poster, looks like I'm spending far too much time on this forum;)
 

Wattie

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It was going so well until this:-

“The fact that no one on the leave side wants to make an issue of these things suggest that all they have to cling to (to quote Wattie) is "we won the vote fair and square".
When in fact you didn't even win that 'fair and square'.

Diddums


Which effectively is a confession (albeit one which would struggle stand up in court) that you know you won the referendum by using unfair means.
This is effectively the whole point of the "second vote" "things weren't told to us" "they lied" "£350m for the NHS big red bus" etc etc etc etc etc movement.

The whole leave campaign was built on lies, untruths and basically was a stitch up job which should never have stood (legally) even though it wasn't legally binding.
This is also the reason why Cameron allowed the referendum, because he knew that in a fair fight (so to speak) a leave vote would never win in a million years.

But we all know, campaigns are won on PR not on policies. But it leaves us now in a steaming pile of horse manure based upon a great PR campaign which told umpteen lies about how good things will be if we leave.
Sad to say the results of those lies are becoming clearer by the day.
I’m not convinced that swayed the difference but sometimes When you’re playing against a stacked deck you’ve gotta do what u gotta do;
Juncker -“when it becomes serious you have to lie”
Kinda like the E.U. now supporting certain candidates but not others after their rule change.
If you think that lies swayed some that’s fine. Both sides lied.
Politicians are still lying.
You and I will pay for what they decide. We should both hope it’s not Mays deal
Agreed?
 

Wattie

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Off to bed.
Best wishes to SMDRP members. 7 (you know who you are)

SMUPPITS, Roo steaks are still available at a strong gbp/Aud,

2 Reviews
Geoff” i’ve Never EVER tasted such a delicious meat, the flavour REMAINS strong, bounces around your tongue”

Felonious Crud- Skippy, where have you been all my life? (Moderator intervention)
“Very true, I love a furry pouch” (allegedly)
 

GeoffCapes

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I’m not convinced that swayed the difference but sometimes When you’re playing against a stacked deck you’ve gotta do what u gotta do;
Juncker -“when it becomes serious you have to lie”
Kinda like the E.U. now supporting certain candidates but not others after their rule change.
If you think that lies swayed some that’s fine. Both sides lied.
Politicians are still lying.
You and I will pay for what they decide. We should both hope it’s not Mays deal
Agreed?

Come on Wattie, you know it made the difference.

How many people would have voted leave if they had not had the big red bus?
How many would have voted leave if you said you pound in your pocket would be worth 20% less.
How many would have voted leave if it meant their factories were going to shut and their jobs transferred overseas?

The list goes on.

And the best one for when we have left, or should that be if we leave. Watch what happens to your electricity bill. :oops::(
 

Wanderer

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The Brexit Leave Petition is being spread on Social Media now, to challenge the People's Vote one, it's standing at around 550,000, as against 5,500,000 for the other one. Also it's been running since last year and already been debated, but that seems to have been overlooked....

Was attracted by this pearl of wisdom in the Petiton's description....

We are wasting Billions of pounds of taxpayers money trying to negotiate in a short space of time. Leaving the EU in March 2019 will allow the UK good time to negotiate more efficiently. The EU will be more eager to accept a deal on our terms having lost a major partner.

We will save billions of pounds from our EU divorce payment as well as a similar amount from Civil Service and Govt costs. This money will be used to support our own country whilst we await the EU to talk to us to make deals more in our favour. The EU border in Ireland to be managed simply by having a dual Euro / pound currency as legal tender in both the North and South. Exports to the South would be dealt with in Euro and vice versa when importing to the North. Rates fixed at time of the deal.

Schoolboy stuff!! Love the 'Ireland will have dual currency' bit lol!!
 

Wattie

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Come on Wattie, you know it made the difference.

How many people would have voted leave if they had not had the big red bus?
How many would have voted leave if you said you pound in your pocket would be worth 20% less.
How many would have voted leave if it meant their factories were going to shut and their jobs transferred overseas?

The list goes on.

And the best one for when we have left, or should that be if we leave. Watch what happens to your electricity bill. :oops::(
Brushing my teeth, not my hair unfortunately!

How many people would have voted leave if they had not had the big red bus? 17.4 MILLION, we can all afford cars.

How many would have voted leave if you said you pound in your pocket would be worth 20% less. LESS IN TESCO’s OR less in Manchuria -17.4 MILLION 1£ buys 1£.

How many would have voted leave if it meant their factories were going to shut and their jobs transferred overseas? I’d say 17.4MILLION......thanks for asking, just a guess.

The list goes on. It does.are you gonna aske me these same questions 3 times?

And the best one for when we have left, or should that be if we leave. Watch what happens to your electricity bill. :oops::(
**** all, I’m on solar, have you seen how much sun I get in Oz :lol2:
 
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Phil the Brit

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There is some breeze being shot on here right now. More titties required I say. Has anyone by some chance got a picture of Amanda Rudd in a bikini? Can't find one anywhere.
 

GeoffCapes

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Brushing my teeth, not my hair unfortunately!

How many people would have voted leave if they had not had the big red bus? 17.4 MILLION, we can all afford cars.

How many would have voted leave if you said you pound in your pocket would be worth 20% less. LESS IN TESCO’s OR less in Manchuria -17.4 MILLION 1£ buys 1£.

How many would have voted leave if it meant their factories were going to shut and their jobs transferred overseas? I’d say 17.4MILLION......thanks for asking, just a guess.

The list goes on. It does.are you gonna aske me these same questions 3 times?

And the best one for when we have left, or should that be if we leave. Watch what happens to your electricity bill. :oops::(
**** all, I’m on solar, have you seen how much sun I get in Oz :lol2:

I rest my case M'lud
 
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And the best one for when we have left, or should that be if we leave. Watch what happens to your electricity bill.

Look at what's happened to my council tax bill - up 26%
 

Wanderer

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And the best one for when we have left, or should that be if we leave. Watch what happens to your electricity bill.

Look at what's happened to my council tax bill - up 26%
But weren't we told 'Easiest deal in history' and 'We hold all the cards', by the very people still running the show......?
 

MaserCoupe

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Dear oh Dear Boris.J what a poor choice of words to say “Let my people go”, is he channeling Exodus when Moses led the Israelites into the wilderness and on to a life of servitude.....:oops: