Brexit Deal

Wattie

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Nothing un-democratic in pressing pause to check with the country, be sure, then pull the trigger to what it wants. People can and do change their mind, so let’s check and be sure. Democracy doesn’t stand still in one small window in time but rather a constant thread, it is a healthy democracy when issues are debated, scrutinised and allowed to breath. So any erosion to the mechanisms of checks and balances is a clear signal that things aren’t right or healthy.
That’s fine.
We’ll just do a re-run of every election/vote from here onwards....when it suits.
It’s amusing that the Uk and Us have exported democracy ( via war) for years but we can’t accept our own voting results....after politicians vowed to implement the results.
Maybe we should re-run last nights “confidence vote”- similar % result to Brexit till we get a no confidence vote ( easily achieved by kidnapping the 10 Dup’s That made the difference.
You may not like the result but honouring it is the basis on which our society stands.
 

Wattie

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But foreign exchanges change all the time, so gold could rise and you sell for a profit, but if the dollar rises against the pound then your profit is reduced.
Hence buying in the commodities traded currency. It's not rocket science.

Relying on a computer to convert the currency is also a fallacy as the trade will also include a conversion cost.
Spread bet or CFD on point rises and falls will negate that, but if you are buying the actual commodity always trade in the commodities traded currency otherwise you are also playing the currency market as well as the commodity market.
Jesus Geoff, we’re living in 2019 not f***** 1974!

If you buy in GBP you are quoted a sale price in GBP......
The computers update the exchange rate in milliseconds so the buy and sell price are 100% accurate!!!!!!

I’ve been previously criticised on this thread for apparently not explaining how Gold works and now you’re talking spread betting and CFd’s when apparently you can’t even get your head around computer automation of currency conversion.

There’s nothing else I can say here other than **** my old boots.
 

MaserCoupe

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That’s fine.
We’ll just do a re-run of every election/vote from here onwards....when it suits.
It’s amusing that the Uk and Us have exported democracy ( via war) for years but we can’t accept our own voting results....after politicians vowed to implement the results.
Maybe we should re-run last nights “confidence vote”- similar % result to Brexit till we get a no confidence vote ( easily achieved by kidnapping the 10 Dup’s That made the difference.
You may not like the result but honouring it is the basis on which our society stands.
So why aren’t Brexiteers united or agreeing?? Could it be that the 52% were made promises that couldn’t be met?
 
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FIFTY

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guys for an International Driving Permit you just need to go down to the post office and thy will write one out in front of you

I did it for when I went to Thailand and hired a car for a road trip a couple of years ago
 

Wattie

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Jesus Geoff, we’re living in 2019 not f***** 1974!

If you buy in GBP you are quoted a sale price in GBP......
The computers update the exchange rate in milliseconds so the buy and sell price are 100% accurate!!!!!!

I’ve been previously criticised on this thread for apparently not explaining how Gold works and now you’re talking spread betting and CFd’s when apparently you can’t even get your head around computer automation of currency conversion.

There’s nothing else I can say here other than **** my old boots.[/QUOTE

Nuff said
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CatmanV2

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The only way another vote will make things more stable is if there's a result to stay in.

Although that will make a *lot* of noise from those that support 'Brexit' (the inverted commas are important), at least we'll have stability.
If there's another result for 'Brexit' it'll still be bad because there is *NO CONSENSUS* on what Brexit means. It's like asking perhaps if you'd like a pet. Yes, I'd love one. I can take it for walks and teach it to fetch. What do you mean you've bought a goldfish? That's not what I wanted.

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MaserCoupe

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That’s fine, we’ll just pause to check every decision the minority questions from now on.
How’d You feel about that?
That's a healthy democracy isn't it? When the details are debated and checked before pulling the trigger no? It did start after all with an internal feud in the party.....Still love you my Maserati brother!
 

Wattie

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That's a healthy democracy isn't it? When the details are debated and checked before pulling the trigger no? It did start after all with an internal feud in the party.....Still love you my Maserati brother!
A healthy democracy respects the decisions made by the people .
Those elected stood to uphold that and said they would respect and inforce.
Full stop.
If democracy depends on a result you wish for........it isn’t democracy.
( till now I respect May for at least upholding that) but

You’re confusing democracy with political stupidity, incompetence, bias, dishonesty and nativity.

The inability to produce a deal via incompetence ( from an Eu group that doesn’t deal) isn’t a reason to stop the result.

Any future referendum on the deal should be restricted to Mays deal Or no deal.

Anything else is a betrayal of a previous result and almost 18m ( the biggest turnout in a polls history) will never trust politicians again
 

MaserCoupe

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A healthy democracy respects the decisions made by the people .
Those elected stood to uphold that and said they would respect and inforce.
Full stop.
If democracy depends on a result you wish for........it isn’t democracy.
( till now I respect May for at least upholding that) but

You’re confusing democracy with political stupidity, incompetence, bias, dishonesty and nativity.

The inability to produce a deal via incompetence ( from an Eu group that doesn’t deal) isn’t a reason to stop the result.

Any future referendum on the deal should be restricted to Mays deal Or no deal.

Anything else is a betrayal of a previous result and almost 18m ( the biggest turnout in a polls history) will never trust politicians again

And there it is Wattie has spoken! Still love you my Maserati brother, however I do disagree with your assessment re: the E.U...not sure what you mean by nativity? Christmas was last month...Imagine though 27 nations came to an agreement and we can't! Again still love you though just because you're into Masers......This isn't about "thwarting the result", or that other meaningless line "the will of the people", this is just about checking and making sure before pulling the trigger, that's all, surely that's not a bad thing is it?.:D
 

FIFTY

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So many people voted leave or remain for totally the wrong reasons

I had a plumber round the other day who said he voted to leave because he wants to see lower house prices and the government to build more social housing... o...k

I don't want to see another referendum because if they did the vote again and the "will of the people" has suddenly changed to remain then it will cause yet more chaos - not stability - it would show not just the politicians that caused this did not know what they were doing but also the people who went to the ballets.
 

MaserCoupe

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So many people voted leave or remain for totally the wrong reasons

I had a plumber round the other day who said he voted to leave because he wants to see lower house prices and the government to build more social housing... o...k

I don't want to see another referendum because if they did the vote again and the "will of the people" has suddenly changed to remain then it will cause yet more chaos - not stability - it would show not just the politicians that caused this did not know what they were doing but also the people who went to the ballets.
I think you've hit the nail on the head!!:D