Brexit Deal

Silvercat

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I agree totally, it's not perfect but I feel socially protected here to a much greater level than in UK. There's no doubt though the UK never really took onboard the ethic of this, UK has the lowest state pension, the lowest benefits in Europe but I'd venture the biggest Armed Forces and the most nukes. Easy to see who's priorities line up where.
Quite right..we dont want to be speaking with a Russian accent in 5 years time....
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MarkMas

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Interestingly, there is never any friction at meets at all. In person, rather than behind a keyboard, people are generally quite amenable. This is probably because we talk about cars not politics.

Also this:
 

MarkMas

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Not according to FullFact, it doesn’t.




Also not the case, in 2018 at least. The UK is not especially generous, but just below the EU average, according to the EU.


UK military expenditure has fallen from over 6% of GDP in 1960 to 1.7% of GDP in 2019. That’s about the same as France, more than Germany and less than Norway.




Maybe not so easy.

;)Don't be coming into this argument with all your facts and data and whatnot. We don't need superior, patronising and arrogant people disagreeing with our opinions just because they actually know stuff!;)
 

philw696

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Didn’t say you are. I said you had been badly advised
You can only go given on the advice given at the time and no one really knew how things were going to unfold with Brexit.
I'm lucky i have Ms French who knows how things work here but for others it's been very stressful.
 

Corranga

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Pretty sure they are not made in China, could be wrong. Some research required but not by me, I just don’t think they are made in China.

So it’s a pair of PX550-II I’ve bought, I can confirm, made in China (I read the bottom of the box). They are forever “Designed in Germany” which always makes me chuckle, in an utterly pointless marketing way.

No way they’d be shipping them from China mind, the cost/time ratio would be well off I’d expect.
 

Lozzer

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I've ordered some parts for the 3200 from Europe, they didn't charge me vat as they said that will be paid at UK customs, along with other charges no doubt, I'll pass these on as and when I get them. :eek: :D
 

Wanderer

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You can only go given on the advice given at the time and no one really knew how things were going to unfold with Brexit.
I'm lucky i have Ms French who knows how things work here but for others it's been very stressful.
At first the Luxembourg Guichet said I'd need work permits but I proved them wrong! It's on their own website too!
 

Saigon

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So it’s a pair of PX550-II I’ve bought, I can confirm, made in China (I read the bottom of the box).

There wasn’t a note inside was there, saying please help me I’m a prisoner in a Chinese back street factory, being paid two dollars a week to make sunglasses for sale in Europe to people who preach about inequality ( income gap, gender, health care, freedom of speech, sexual orientation, religion, and race) and then still go on to buy my sunglasses.
 

Wattie

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‘Every time a crisis hits Europe — whether it is debt, refugees or Covid-19 — the prophets of doom predict the worst for the EU. At the height of the euro crisis, many suggested that Europe’s single currency would not survive. I was among those who thought the refugee crisis of 2015 could make Brussels irrelevant. The pro-Brexit British press continues to predict the collapse of the EU on an almost weekly basis. Covid-19 has brought a fresh blast of pessimism. The American economist Paul Krugman recently reviewed the EU’s pandemic performance and concluded: “The European project is in deep trouble.”

‘There is little doubt that the EU’s performance on Covid-19 has been dismal. But that should not lead to melodramatic despair about the organisation’s future. The European project has been around for some 70 years, since the foundation of the European Coal and Steel community in 1951. Over that time it has survived many crises and self-inflicted wounds, and more than quadrupled in size. Perhaps it is time to recognise that it is quite a resilient organisation?

‘In fact, if you are looking for political unions that are in “deep trouble”, or threatened by break up, the US and the UK are currently more plausible candidates than the EU. America has just seen Congress stormed by an angry mob and one of its two major political parties has gone sour on democracy. The UK is struggling to cope with the revival of violence in Northern Ireland and to fend off a second independence referendum in Scotland, which could easily see the country lose a third of its territory. Compared with this, the EU’s problems seem relatively mild.’
Mmmmnnn, seems a lot of French ain’t happy.

Could France actually leave the European Union?
The European Union’s former Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has reignited talk of “Frexit” with comments interpreted by Eurosceptics as a warning that France could still follow suit in exiting the bloc.

Read in The Independent: https://apple.news/AVUwnbufsScWxmFYtXnvADw
 

fphil

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“We could draw some lessons from Brexit for ourselves. It’s now too late for the UK but not for us.”
Which reads "too late for UK to remain but not for France", even fo the french eurosceptics who know very well that Barnier stands pro EU++.
(Essential News from the source you trust)
 
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bigbob

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Mmmmnnn, seems a lot of French ain’t happy.

Could France actually leave the European Union?
The European Union’s former Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier has reignited talk of “Frexit” with comments interpreted by Eurosceptics as a warning that France could still follow suit in exiting the bloc.

Read in The Independent: https://apple.news/AVUwnbufsScWxmFYtXnvADw
It was relatively easy for the UK to depart compared with a country wanting to leave which is in the euro. The whole point of the euro was to protect the German export industry from too strong a DM and guarantee it decades of success. It was for no one else’s benefit and has destroyed countries like Italy which historically had relied on depreciating currency to protect their economies. Look at Italian versus German economic growth in the 21+ years since the euro was created.

The trading relationship which the EEC was built on was brilliant but it should have stayed at that and no more.
 
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Wattie

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It was relatively easy for the UK to depart compared with a country wanting to leave which is in the euro. The whole point of the euro was to protect the German export industry from too strong a DM and guarantee it decades of success. It was for no one else’s benefit and has destroyed countries like Italy which historically had relied on depreciating currency to protect their economies. Look at Italian versus German economic growth in the 21+ years since the euro was created.

The trading relationship which the EEC was built on was brilliant but it should have stayed as that and no more.
Germans ain’t too impressed at mutualisation of all the debt ......,https://www.euronews.com/2021/03/30...ocked-the-eu-s-recovery-fund-what-happens-now

House of cards.
 

fphil

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