Brexit Deal

[whereskeith]

I'm a remainer. May I enquire please, what is 'it', and in your answer please include what is your proposal for maintaining the international peace treaty in Northern Ireland which ended a thirty year war, neatly solved 400 years of discord, took ten years to negotiate and was ratified by 71% and 94% referendum majorities on both sides of the border?

Thats a sad and unfortunate situation.. I dont see any way that a hard Brexit can avoid a hard border unless NI joins a united Ireland. If in the worst case scenario a border happens I would hope the relevant parties do not take up arms again as that would be tragic.
In my view its either a hard brexit and we endure 2 years of econimic slowdown before new trade kicks in and we start to grow again (with Europe too because we will eventually trade efficiently again) without outside influence or we stay in , properly in. That means we join the Euro, the ECB takes over our banking and we become part of the federal superstate that Europe is going to be in the next few years and we take all the benefits and costs that come with that.

 

[Wanderer]

 

[zagatoes30]

I've got his number somewhere...

Me too, but daren't ring it to ask his opinion

 

[hunta]

Press conference at 5pm...

 

[Phil H]

Regardless of whether we should stay or leave, the one thing the debate has shown is that far too many back-stabbing, self-serving, politicians of all persuasions are prepared to sacrifice the good of the United Kingdom for personal ambition and cheap party politics. It's high time they grew up and stopped acting like kids in a playground; many of the current crop make me shudder at a time when the country needs rational and constructive proposals, not cheap point scoring and soundbites.

PH

 

[D Walker]

Regardless of whether we should stay or leave, the one thing the debate has shown is that far too many back-stabbing, self-serving, politicians of all persuasions are prepared to sacrifice the good of the United Kingdom for personal ambition and cheap party politics. It's high time they grew up and stopped acting like kids in a playground; many of the current crop make me shudder at a time when the country needs rational and constructive proposals, not cheap point scoring and soundbites.

PH

My thoughts in a nutshell actually, the problem is those that take up public service for the right reasons will always be undermined by those that do it with their own personnel agenda..

 

[CatmanV2]

Regardless of whether we should stay or leave, the one thing the debate has shown is that far too many back-stabbing, self-serving, politicians of all persuasions are prepared to sacrifice the good of the United Kingdom for personal ambition and cheap party politics. It's high time they grew up and stopped acting like kids in a playground; many of the current crop make me shudder at a time when the country needs rational and constructive proposals, not cheap point scoring and soundbites.

PH

My thoughts in a nutshell actually, the problem is those that take up public service for the right reasons will always be undermined by those that do it with their own personnel agenda..

David Mundell said it well. How we are expected to take them seriously when they sit in either Chequers or the Cabinet meeting yesterday, say 'Yes I'm in agreement' then go and do something totally different (like resign, because that's really helping) beggars belief.

C

 

[Contigo]

Me too...he might get an invite

 

[Wanderer]

I think Corbyn is an honourable and principled man, he's stuck to his beliefs to the detriment of his political career too but he genuinely seems to care about people.

However he's been a dick in the past, and another thing he could be PM in a jiffy if he'd promise to cancel Brexit or at least propose a second referendum. But he won't because that goes against his principles, which I respect him for.

Not saying he'd make a great PM just that out of all of them, he seems to be a decent person.

Waiting for the IRA, Hammas, Semite, USSR, three-day week comments now!

 

[Contigo]

Regardless of whether we should stay or leave, the one thing the debate has shown is that far too many back-stabbing, self-serving, politicians of all persuasions are prepared to sacrifice the good of the United Kingdom for personal ambition and cheap party politics. It's high time they grew up and stopped acting like kids in a playground; many of the current crop make me shudder at a time when the country needs rational and constructive proposals, not cheap point scoring and soundbites.

PH

Absolutely spot on and also the EU have shown what spiteful ***** they are too. Snivelling unelected bureaucrats sat in their ivory towers worried about their lives being sent into turmoil should the EU collapse and treating the UK as a scapegoat and lesson for anyone else thinking of leaving.

 

[Contigo]

I think Corbyn is an honourable and principled man, he's stuck to his beliefs to the detriment of his political career too but he genuinely seems to care about people.

However he's been a dick in the past, and another thing he could be PM in a jiffy if he'd promise to cancel Brexit or at least propose a second referendum. But he won't because that goes against his principles, which I respect him for.

Not saying he'd make a great PM just that out of all of them, he seems to be a decent person.

Waiting for the IRA, Hammas, Semite, USSR, three-day week comments now!

He's a risible ****!

 

[Oneball]

I think Corbyn is an honourable and principled man, he's stuck to his beliefs to the detriment of his political career too but he genuinely seems to care about people.

However he's been a dick in the past, and another thing he could be PM in a jiffy if he'd promise to cancel Brexit or at least propose a second referendum. But he won't because that goes against his principles, which I respect him for.

Not saying he'd make a great PM just that out of all of them, he seems to be a decent person.

Waiting for the IRA, Hammas, Semite, USSR, three-day week comments now!

I used to think that, that he was like a modern day Tony Benn but he isn’t. Since he’s been leader of the Labour Party he’s proved he’s just as back stabbing, scheming and untrustworthy as most of the rest of them.

Just had a horrid thought. What happens if Rees-Mogg takes over from May?!!

 

[TimR]

Just had a horrid thought. What happens if Rees-Mogg takes over from May?!!

- I think he'll find out that he's been talking shite about that which he knows nothing, and go running to Boris' open arms seeking solace..!
Oh sorry- did you mean to the UK..? We're so bollox'd it hardly makes a difference does it, really..?!!

 

[D Walker]

Press conference at 5pm...

Delayed to 17:15 - Apparently there is no one left to give the job too..........

 

[Wanderer]

Raab C. Exit was the QOTD today!

 

[Contigo]

She hasn't resigned and fair play to her for keeping on. Let's just get the best deal possible!

 

[Wanderer]

Dead Woman Walking.....

 

[zagatoes30]

She has balls of steel and I give her credit for sticking at it to do the best she can as opposed to those other dicks who agree one day and then resign the next bunch of spineless feckwits.

 

[FIFTY]

So much propaganda no one is stating any facts it's just another phase of the **** show which is flushing our economy as we know it down the toilet.

The old crones driving this forward don't care about the national interest or anyones livelihood they have made their fortunes and are likely to gain even more from this chaos.

Now the question is how do I gain from this?

 

[Andyk]

Sick to death of it all.....I don't give a feck any more. It will be what it will be. vote again, don't vote again....in ... Out.....we look like a bunch of buffoons. As long as I have my family, my home a pair of slippers and a warm place to **** they can do what the feck they like.