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Wattie

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Oh dear remainers, what a choice? Allegedly if u,
Respect a democratic vote u Have Putin or U reject it and have Corbyn Take over the Uk!
Project fear has become project worse and worser and even more worst and more worser than the worst thing you in the worsest circumstances could imagine.
 
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So it seems a 'Peoples March' is scheduled for October 19th in London ending at Parliament Square.
I think it is about another referendum (?).
Millions are expected and a jolly time will ensue.
However I am in London at that time attending No.1 Son's wedding.
So I hope we leave without a deal tomorrow, no today
 

Wattie

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So it seems a 'Peoples March' is scheduled for October 19th in London ending at Parliament Square.
I think it is about another referendum (?).
Millions are expected and a jolly time will ensue.
However I am in London at that time attending No.1 Son's wedding.
So I hope we leave without a deal tomorrow, no today
I must’ve missed my invitation to that people’s march, hey ho. I think 17,8 million others missed theirs too.
It was cheaper to invite the losers than pay for all the stamps for the winners.

Anyway many congrats on your sons wedding. Same day as my first daughters birthday.
October is a memorable month for special occasions.
 

GeoffCapes

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Oh dear remainers, what a choice? Allegedly if u,
Respect a democratic vote u Have Putin or U reject it and have Corbyn Take over the Uk!
Project fear has become project worse and worser and even more worst and more worser than the worst thing you in the worsest circumstances could imagine.

Project Fear, has actually become Project Fact.
 

GeoffCapes

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Only because a remainer Pm mishandled it 700 odd days ago and now we have less than 80 to get it right.

Granted, she didn't make a very good fist of things.

However, everything that has been said that could happen, has happened, and everything that they have said will happen with a No Deal Brexit, is absolutely appalling and will probably happen.

I was saying to my wife yesterday, that the likes of us with be ok, as we have the incomes and finances to cover the increases in the cost of living that will inevitably happen.
However, it's those who are on the poorer end of the scale that will suffer, and will be hit hard by Brexit. The majority of whom were promised better standards of living and more money in their pocket once we get rid of those pesky meddling Europeans.
They're the ones who voted to leave in their millions based on the rubbish the likes of Farage spouted.

But they will pay the dearest price.

I'm almost sounding like a socialist.

As you probably know we've got a bit of kit coming to the market which will reduce gas consumption by about 20% on a domestic boiler.
Those who we have spoken to (councils, housing associations etc) are very concerned with the impact Brexit will have on their tenants. As when winter comes, its a case of heat your home or pay your rent. The rent gets second billing.

The knock on effects of all this are almost unimaginable.
 

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My email to Sarah Wollaston

Dear Dr Sarah Wollaston,

Apologies for my last, I was writing it on my phone whilst on watch at sea and clumsy fingers on a little keypad sent it prematurely. I hope you have time to read this in full.

I was surprised at the content your latest email last night. Now the shock has worn off I am somewhat bemused.

I voted for you in the last general election, on the understanding that although you personally voted against Brexit you would honour the will of the majority as you said you would. As you know, 54% of your constituents who voted in the referendum voted for Brexit. Not one kind of Brexit or another, just Brexit. Nothing more nothing less.

In my life experience nothing really worth having has come without some effort self sacrifice and pain. I can't help likening the Brexit process to my cancer treatment 5 years ago. Like the British nation, I thought I was pretty healthy going into diagnosis and treatment. That 6 month process of getting rid of the cancer was long, painful and seemed interminable. In the end I am cured and life is good, even though I am having to work into my seventies, having used up my meagre pension to pay the bills for a year whilst I was recovering.

Since the Brexit referendum I have certainly woken up to what is going on in Europe, I'm sure many people have. I don't wish to sound melodramatic but the cancer of the Euro and the top heavy administration seems doomed to destroy the European union. Italy has debts it will never be able to repay and Germany, the strongest European economy, is now in recession, dragged down by the weaker economies in Europe.

Without doubt there are many good things, standards and human rights, to have come out of Europe but nothing the British people could not adopt and even improve upon. History has proven us to be a tough resilient and resourceful bunch.

I'm sure we can get through the painful process and be all the better for it, after all what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

I voted for you and the Conservative party as those best placed to deliver on that democratic referendum result. I could understand the concerns and reasons for your leaving the Conservative party since. However, I can't help feeling betrayed by what seems to me a perfidious act of joining a party diametrically opposed to the wishes of that majority of your electorate. Now weakening the hand of your former allies on the government benches.

As for myself, I should add that my father was an ex Luftwaffe conscript POW. At the end of the second world war he opted to stay here and help rebuild the country. I still have family ties in Germany. My brother and other relations live in France and Spain. I'm no xenophobe and have many friends all over Europe and rejoice in our multi cultural society.

In my 40 plus years as a fisherman, I have struggled under the jackboot of the CFP. Had to stand by as more and more European boats were granted access to our waters and decimated our fisheries whilst we had to go elsewhere. Watched as once thriving fishing ports we visited fell into decline and British boats were decommissioned, cut up for scrap or burnt.

I am skipper of a Brixham registered beam trawler Carhelmar BM 23. The boat is managed by Interfish, a multi million pound company in Plymouth. In the run up to the referendum I was a bit ambiguous as to how I felt about it. On the one hand most of my career was under the disastrous CFP as I have stated. On the other hand most of our markets are abroad and I wasn't sure of the greater economic consequences. It wasn't until I met up with our company owner Jan Colam, himself of Dutch origin, that I was fully convinced of the long term benefits. He paid our expenses to join in the Brexit rally up the Thames to parliament. It was a long day and felt very good to grab the media's attention and deliver the message about how strongly we felt to the heart of remain town. Despite the likes of the Goldsmith financed lackey Bob Geldof trying to throw scorn on it.

Now I sense a golden opportunity and the chance to take control of the management of our bountiful but not infinite resource. There's hope of a real future for my son, all the other young people and future generations of British fishermen who want to make an honest living, putting food in people's mouths.

Of course there is a long tradition of European coastal countries having access to our waters and given a no deal Brexit, that would have to be negotiated, on our terms, giving Britain back the fair and proportionate share of the available resource quotas. Not just a few extra kilos in return for agricultural and trade concessions, as we saw going into the EEC.

This could be based on reciprocal swaps in appropriate fisheries with visiting boats having access subject to strict monitoring conditions, using something like the onboard REM camera systems we are trialling at the moment. Strict enforcement and landing conditions only in Britain where they can be monitored, like the Icelandic and Norwegian fisheries introduced, could see our fisheries that have been over exploited in the past recovering to abundant and sustainable levels, as theirs have. The technologies exist, together with modest outlay on fisheries protection vessels and a robust no compromise enforcement policy, I'm sure that visiting vessels would toe the line.

By getting our proper share, we could see already profitable fishing ports like Brixham, Newlyn, Plymouth and the Scottish ports doubling their income and thriving. That means an extra £1bn on catch alone. Then there's the added value from processing, another £4bn. Hardly insignificant sums.

The extra income generated could help finance more of our own scientific studies, expanding CEFAS to gather more comprehensive stock and environmental data. Along with landing and monitoring data, that could form the basis of realistic and sustainable effort control.

I'm sorry to have rambled on, I'm not normally given to diatribe but you have provoked this reaction from me and I couldn't let it go without letting you know how I feel. I can't blame you for doing what you think is best but this time it's at odds to what I, and I daresay many of your previous supporters, think you should do.

So I'm asking you, in the interests of fair democracy, please stand down as MP for Totnes and force a by-election. Then you can put your standpoint to the electorate and see if enough of your constituents still support your different position. That will give the Conservative party chance to field a representative more supportive of the PM's line, who we can vote for.

Personally, I think that us brexiteers should give Boris all the support we can, rather than diluting the Brexit effort into fringe parties. It's become apparent to me that to deal with the EU needs a tough no-nonsense approach of a hard negotiator. With a no deal Brexit a possibility the EU negotiators are much more likely to be more flexible on the other key issues. Hopefully, cometh the hour, cometh the man.

Thank you for all the good work you have done.

Regards, Gerald Podschies.

It appears your letter gained a wider audience :)
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Trev Latter

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I was going to write a reply about accidentally thinking I'd clicked on the hood ornament thread and that she'd have to remove her jeans to prevent scratches caused by the rivets on the back pockets. On reflection, a one word reply is far more appropriate.....


Wibble!
 

rivarama

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Euro zone bank share meltdown brings prices to brink of 1980s
Negative interest rates, toppling bond yields, greater regulation and rising recession signals have wiped out most of the value of European banks, with their shares now at meltdown prices approaching the days of the Berlin Wall.

Read in Reuters: https://apple.news/Aiif3gstISveV_h3Jww1PHA

Confirming the EU is going to need A SH1TLOAD MORE Ponzi.........lost 84% of their value, that’s 84%!!!!!!
Aren’t bankers supposed to look after money:frusty5:

The Eu is a failed political project, but let’s keep pretending it’s all fine.

No need for more propaganda... we get your point already lol