Bendy Bumper

Oneball

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I think where the two screws are in fig 66 I have grommets in my spare wheel well. I reckon that’s where the two tabs are bolted when they are present.
 

77GR

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I ran my fingers along the gap in question on my car and found the brackets that Rob was trying to identify very definately engaging with corresponding bolts coming out of the spare wheel well as suggested above and the brackets themselves are carrying captive type clips to engage the bolts. The lack of these items for Rob may be the source of the original warping issue.

I also agree with Dave about the wing helping downforce/grip. I recently swapped out my regular springs for AC items, swapped the rack for an AC rack and had the suspension lowered 15mm to match full AC spec (just waiting for the ARB now to complete the setup :)). The downforce feels like it has increased significantly - probably as a result of the 15mm lowering. At almost exactly 78 mph (not that I would entertain speeds like that on a public road ;)) I can perceptibly feel the stability suddenly start to increase.
 

Oneball

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Maybe a 4200 bumper has been fitted at some point?

Looking at the parts diags the 4200 bumper has the tabs, maybe it was a modification after mine was made to stop it flapping.

4200 bumper below:

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BigBob52

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Sometimes it all gets too much and you need a good laugh to clear your head and start again - it’s that frustrating.

Will follow up on all the suggestions. It may be that the 4200 bumper corrected the design fault on the 3200. Will check the 3200 spare wheel well for signs of grommets which should confirm it or not. I could have a modified 4200 scrap spare for the 3200 - if that makes sense.

Still puzzled but getting there. Thanks everyone.
 

TimR

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Sometimes it all gets too much and you need a good laugh to clear your head and start again....

If that's what works...
Im having one of those days...
I have taken to SHOUTING at Channel 4 news coverage of Brexit for an hour every evening. Its cathartic- you should try it.
Although what my neighbours must think is a different matter....but then he's a cock fancying, wifeswapping, redneck hillbilly , so who cares..:bart_simpson-226::D
 

BigBob52

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My way is better. Try this...

If that's what works...
Im having one of those days...
I have taken to SHOUTING at Channel 4 news coverage of Brexit for an hour every evening. Its cathartic- you should try it.
Although what my neighbours must think is a different matter....but then he's a cock fancying, wifeswapping, redneck hillbilly , so who cares..:bart_simpson-226::D
Try this:
 

alfatwo

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Can't help you there mate sorry..

But have wind tunnel pics of the 3200, apparently the drag coefficient is very good, better than the 4200 with its much higher frontal area


Dave
 

Lozzer

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Can't help you there mate sorry..

But have wind tunnel pics of the 3200, apparently the drag coefficient is very good, better than the 4200 with its much higher frontal area


Dave
That's because the 4200 has sticky out wings and really bad shut lines on the panels, all due to the efforts to mass produce as I understand it.......
 

77GR

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As a piece of trivia, the 3200 has no visible panel break at the base of the windscreen where the front wings flow into the windscreen pillars. There is no panel break all the way from the headlamps to the rear bumper - not many cars are like that. Obviously there must be joins, probably leaded but I don't know where they are. However, this was expensive (like the overuse of leather trim on the interior) and exactly as Lozzer said the "efforts to mass produce" caused Ferrari to put a stop to stop to it for the 4200.
 

BigBob52

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As a piece of trivia, the 3200 has no visible panel break at the base of the windscreen where the front wings flow into the windscreen pillars. There is no panel break all the way from the headlamps to the rear bumper - not many cars are like that. Obviously there must be joins, probably leaded but I don't know where they are. However, this was expensive (like the overuse of leather trim on the interior) and exactly as Lozzer said the "efforts to mass produce" caused Ferrari to put a stop to stop to it for the 4200.
Never understand why some of the reviewers did not like the banana lights on the 3200.
 

midlifecrisis

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As a piece of trivia, the 3200 has no visible panel break at the base of the windscreen where the front wings flow into the windscreen pillars. There is no panel break all the way from the headlamps to the rear bumper - not many cars are like that. Obviously there must be joins, probably leaded but I don't know where they are. However, this was expensive (like the overuse of leather trim on the interior) and exactly as Lozzer said the "efforts to mass produce" caused Ferrari to put a stop to stop to it for the 4200.
I actually knew that, someone pointed it out to me show SM meet back in my early days of my 4200 ownership. I then inspected a 3200 fron the front to the rear to confirm this fact. I then looked at mine to reinforce his fact. It's an easily missed design point of the 3200. I also heard that Ferrari wanted the Coupe to make a profit hence the addition of wings for the 4200.
 

BigBob52

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Final look in the Batcave tonight at the scrap bumper. It is majorly reinforced with additional securing fixings for the reinforcement under the bumper on the wings - at the back of the tyres - that are not there on the 3200. Think Matt is right in his assessment.
 

TimR

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By “wings”, I take it you mean the rear diffuser ‘foil...?
I have stared at the bottom shut lines of the doors on a couple 4200s, staggered frankly by the the canyon sized casms ....! :conf2:
 

BigBob52

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1st reply from Italy tells me that the 4200GT "does not exist" - good start?

Revised reply adds:

"However, I think the rear bumpers of the 3200 GT and the Coupé are different.
The two large cars look identical, but in reality they are quite different."

Nothing like a bit of international banter! :omg:

Couldn't resist tossing back a UK Spag Bol'!
 
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BigBob52

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And again from Italy:

"The rear bumper code of the Maserati 3200GT and the Coupé GT (or Cambiocorsa) are different, so the bumpers are different.

To know if they are compatible you should do a test from the coachbuilder ...

However there are differences between an original bumper and a 'competition' (or 'compatible' if you prefer) that require changes or adaptations to be mounted ..."