Are you worried yet.

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Wack61

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Over 17,000 new cases in the UK and 143 deaths posted today.
Macron making an announcement tomorrow evening for us in France.

143 deaths with coronavirus not necessarily of coronavirus, if a plane crashed with 300 x 18-30s on the way back from benidorm and they all tested positive it'd be 443

It's a shambles , it's time the vulnerable were told to shield and everybody else takes their chances, hundreds of thousands of young people could be being handed a death sentence because none of their potentially life threatening illnesses are being diagnosed or treated.
 
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Not sure this is working at the moment 3 tiers etc
Not sure letting everyone out is the right thing to do either because of the possible/probable effect on nhs
help I need answers
 

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By now everyone knows if they are at risk and, if so, how much and those that don’t are too stupid to bother about. So, let everyone carry on with life; those at high risk or those who want to can self-isolate, stay away from crowds, wear a mask yada yada yada and those that accept the risk, because they are low risk, can go to the pub, restaurants, football matches etc etc etc. If those that do behave normally start feeling unwell tough sh!t, you took the risk and you f*cked up so don’t go whinging to the hospital. That would free up the NHS for cancer patients, those waiting for operations not just Covid victims. Eventually, herd immunity may kick in and Covid becomes just another bug to deal with. If this shitshow carries on, the country, businesses, people will all go bust and, from what I’ve seen so far, it just isn’t worth it. PS, for the OP, I’m still not worried and never will be.
 

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It's a shambles , it's time the vulnerable were told to shield and everybody else takes their chances, hundreds of thousands of young people could be being handed a death sentence because none of their potentially life threatening illnesses are being diagnosed or treated.

If there are no restrictions and everyone else just 'takes their chances' as you say, the young people you refer to with life threatening illnesses won't get the treatment they need because the hospitals will be overwhelmed. They can't win.

I am one of the vulnerable, but have finally been aloud to return to work after weeks of trying to convince HSEQ that I should, and I'm not too much of a risk.

I don't want another lock down, and was very tired of sheilding. My life is my responsibility and I will take the precautions I feel necessary to stay safe.

However, what really boiles my ****, is that whether they are believers or not, people can't just do 3 simple things for the good of others.
Wash your hands, keep your distance and wear a mask if your in public spaces.

It's not much to ask is it?... Is it?... I don't get what the fuss is about. Why can't people do it?

The same people that don't do it, then moan when actual restrictions are put in place.
It's because they can't do those 3 simple things that the restrictions have to be put in place. :mad:

Grow up, think of others, and maybe we can all go back to normal sooner rather than later.
 

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I do all of those things, wash and sanitise my hands when washing isn't available, I wear a mask whenever I enter a public space and avoid people wherever possible because I'm a responsible law abiding person.

The problem is and will be until they change it is NOBODY is getting fined , take that lot playing cricket in London after 10pm ,send 200 coppers in , block the street and march everyone to a cash machine

it can't carry on like this , fine people that won't comply in a very public way so word gets around, if they find their bank account £200-£400-£600 light they'll stop doing it.

My kids have just gone back to uni where the uni is taking CV19 very seriously , a student visited another student in their room , the two of them were given one warning , do it again ,you're off campus
 

BennyD

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If there are no restrictions and everyone else just 'takes their chances' as you say, the young people you refer to with life threatening illnesses won't get the treatment they need because the hospitals will be overwhelmed. They can't win.

I am one of the vulnerable, but have finally been aloud to return to work after weeks of trying to convince HSEQ that I should, and I'm not too much of a risk.

I don't want another lock down, and was very tired of sheilding. My life is my responsibility and I will take the precautions I feel necessary to stay safe.

However, what really boiles my ****, is that whether they are believers or not, people can't just do 3 simple things for the good of others.
Wash your hands, keep your distance and wear a mask if your in public spaces.

It's not much to ask is it?... Is it?... I don't get what the fuss is about. Why can't people do it?

The same people that don't do it, then moan when actual restrictions are put in place.
It's because they can't do those 3 simple things that the restrictions have to be put in place. :mad:

Grow up, think of others, and maybe we can all go back to normal sooner rather than later.

If you keep your distance from everyone else then you should be safe whether they are wearing a mask or not and, if you wash /cleanse your hands as often as you want what does it matter if I don’t? Are you going to handle my cup, cutlery, plate or shopping? I suspect not, so what does it matter if I wash my hands (more than normal) or not? Look after yourself and if you are not happy with a situation, then get out of it. I’m taking my chances and if I get sick I won’t be bothering the NHS. Consequently I won’t be getting a Covid test as all that proves is either you have it or you don’t. At that moment. The sooner we can start tailoring this situation to our personal needs the better or the country will lurch from lock-down to crisis to lock-down.
 
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Andyk

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Liverpool last night hours before the restrictions was like New Years Eve in the streets. Fecking beggars belief. I am sick to death of the blame culture and people blaming governments etc. The only people who are to blame and can change this now is us........
 

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I agree with Benny. We have tried all sorts and nothing is working as it should due to people not complying. Just be an honest, decent, thoughtful citizen and we can all get on with our lives with 75% normality in the short term and likely 95% normality in the medium to long term.

We have ruined an economy, business and lives also continuing to do so that is disparate and I'm slammed to deal with this virus. The Black Plague for most it isn't. We know this.

If we continue tiptoeing around the issue we will have caused more deaths than Covid is actually responsible for. Maybe more already.

Get tough on the idots which is something we don't do enough of at the best of times. A tough hand is required now more than ever.

The people are speaking.....and are speaking sense. We pay for politicians/ idiots (same thing!) to be there so just listen to sensible thoughts and instruction.
 

zagatoes30

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This is just common sense, if you want to reduce infection take simple precautions, wash hands, wear masks in confined spaces but most of all reduce unnecessary contacts it everyone did this then the rate would drop. Unfortunately common sense is sadly not that common, too many people think it doesn't apply to me and think they can get on with normal life.

Over here there certainly seems to be more acceptance of what is needed, especially outside of Dublin and other cities but that might be because this is quite a rural area. Everyone wears masks, everyone gives each other space in streets, most people accept the Garda roadblocks and generally life moves on if slightly different.

Personally we look to ensure that the family are as well as they can be, that where possible things go on as normal and where not we find other things to keep everyone healthy in mind and body and bizarrely we speak to family back in the UK more than we did prior to C19 which can't be a bad thing.
 

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I had to suffer Cabot Circus a month or so ago and did pass comment we'll get what we deserve - and we are - very few were following the guidance.
But what is confusing me is the Giro D'Italia Grand Tour bike race - supposedly Italy has only a few cases, yet, to-date, two teams have had to withdraw because of the virus, but no teams had it during the Tour de France and apparently France had a much higher infection rate........
 
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