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Delmonte said:
Doesn’t matter what folk on here want. Not even your “millennials” that infest this board (they don’t exist here, by the way). Completely irrelevant. We are below the level of pawns. Dismantling the CCCP also completely impossible by military means (or the threat of). It rarely works well even for taking out banana republic dictators. You’re dealing with a regime in charge of one third of the worlds population, that’s increasingly likely to be allied to Russia (another huge chunk of population controlled by an over-armed dictator for life). Different beast
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I agree , it wont be easy , but Russia is on its own covona brink as i type , they too are on lockdown if you havent heard , and there is certainly unrest in China re the CCCP , bigger apples have fallen when they are rotten to the core, its finding away of successfully stoking the already existant unrest, It would be easy to blockade China , remember it relies heavily on raw material imports ,
 
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Wattie said:
Wattie verified, this ain’t going away any time soon.

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ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Our lives will never be the same for a very long time.
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Not good news there.

Oh and pedant alert on your last sentence Wattie. Is it never or a very long time?;):D
 
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Wattie said:
Wattie verified, this ain’t going away any time soon.

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ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
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Our lives will never be the same for a very long time.
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I said a couple of weeks ago , my wife ( who speaks fluent Mandarin) listens daily to vaious Chinese media outlets and she confirmed this coming out from Wuhan 10 days ago, its going to be the case of learning to live with it and accept it as another winter flue loss increase
 
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Was just looking at stuff from our unions and I was shocked. We’ve all been talking about deaths of NHS staff. But TfL have had 14 staff die and that’s just London. I’ve not seen figures from the rest of the transport network. But I find that a bit scary.
 
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Delmonte said:
Clucking Bell..... :suicide:
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But before panic sets in again, the article clearly says:

In other words, if these findings are confirmed, the hoped-for "herd immunity" that is supposed to help us get things back to normal in the time between now and however long it takes researchers to mass produce a vaccine simply isn't going to materialize:

Is it not possible that these are isolated unrepresentative examples? I’m not saying they are, but it doesn’t seem to be FACT yet
 
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DaveT said:
Any guesses what the extra C might stand for?;)
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Corona?
My gut tells me we aren’t being told the truth about this situation. Infected, recovered, still undergoing treatment, dead- worldwide.
Scientists must be accumulating data from those deemed to be recovered......with immunity.
Silence is deafening, isn’t it.....unless someone can tell me otherwise?
 
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Rwc13 said:
But before panic sets in again, the article clearly says:

In other words, if these findings are confirmed, the hoped-for "herd immunity" that is supposed to help us get things back to normal in the time between now and however long it takes researchers to mass produce a vaccine simply isn't going to materialize:

Is it not possible that these are isolated unrepresentative examples? I’m not saying they are, but it doesn’t seem to be FACT yet
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May not be fiction either.
 
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Rwc13 said:
But before panic sets in again, the article clearly says:

In other words, if these findings are confirmed, the hoped-for "herd immunity" that is supposed to help us get things back to normal in the time between now and however long it takes researchers to mass produce a vaccine simply isn't going to materialize:

Is it not possible that these are isolated unrepresentative examples? I’m not saying they are, but it doesn’t seem to be FACT yet
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Interesting to note that most of those with the weak response were the ones with the least severe symptoms. Plenty of ways to interpret data.

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CatmanV2 said:
Interesting to note that most of those with the weak response were the ones with the least severe symptoms. Plenty of ways to interpret data.

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Of course there is.
I’m sure the 110million in Africa will be soothed to know that if they survive it first time, the data interpretation may show they will or will not get it a second.
 
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rockits said:
I remember watching the interesting BBC series called Supersized Earth with Dallas Campbell presenting. Mind boggling some of the things we do. Clever and amazing engineering but you wonder at what cost.

He was in a lounge with lots of things in the room back dated to the 70's and something like 70% were made in Britain. Then fast forward to today and pretty much all of it bar the sofa was made outside Britain.
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I believe we import 80% of what we consume in the UK, the majority of which comes from China either directly or indirectly via the EU. So big dependency....but it's not impossible to change sources of supply away from China if there is a will to do it. The West has got far far too reliant on China for pretty much everything now and its high time this economic policy changed.
 
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Silvercat said:
I believe we import 80% of what we consume in the UK, the majority of which comes from China either directly or indirectly via the EU. So big dependency....but it's not impossible to change sources of supply away from China if there is a will to do it. The West has got far far too reliant on China for pretty much everything now and its high time this economic policy changed.
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I remember as a kid my mum buying me shoes that said 'Empire Made' on them and they were generally regarded as cr@p......
 
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Silvercat said:
If it was me I would send China 'the bill'. Its costing the UK economy £2.4bn per day..let alone the human impact! I think China could be in for a rough ride over the next 5 years as more and more companies pull work out and look to redeploy closer to home.
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www.lawgazette.co.uk

China could face Covid claims running into trillions

UK courts could hear claims over failure to follow international regulations, thinktank says.
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China's Sovereign immunity may not get them out of this one

But would they pay the bill if/when found liable? I doubt it!
 
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Delmonte said:
I would love that to be possible. But just can’t see it. People will only vote with their feet via their wallet. It frustrates me that I can’t even buy a decent T shirt that will last years (used to be able to do that by buying a quality brand... I have T shirts bought 20 years ago that have been washed hundreds of times, look better than recent ones washed twice (though they are little tighter these days, if not from shrinking lol).
Since everything moved to being Made In China (and elsewhere similar) from Europe, and got vastly cheaper, (not just clothes) there just isn’t the option any more even if you want to pay more. Brands have become meaningless (all made in the same Chinese factory from the same materials).

This will not change... an elite T shirt manufacturer will go bust fast if it’s t shirts last a decade, even if some want to buy them for a premium, there won’t be enough.

People will pay a bit more for something purely due to its origin, (like fairtrade) but I suspect not enough to pay the huge difference needed for something entirely designed and built in Europe.

We are stuck with the system, everything is global, everything interconnected, price is the king of everything... and anything else is utopian, won’t happen....
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We have got to shift out collective mindsets in the UK from being a throw away society to stuff that lasts a good few years and is great quality. I've still got a wool overcoat which I bought from Next in 1985 ( the good old days when they used to make top end clothes) for my daily commute to London. It was a god send , great quality and doesnt look a day older from the day I originally bought it. The quality was first class and even the wool was from Scotland ...not Chinese **** like it is today. So time the UK changed and became more independent.
 
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