Apocalypse Cow: How Meat Killed the Planet

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allandwf said:
One of the things I like about Sicily, I spend a lot of time there, is it is still very much little shops, fruit and veg shop, cheese shop, bakers shop, butchers shop, fish shop/ Market etc. Fruit and veg is all loose, only available in season, and you get it in a paper bag.
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Same in Co. Wexford
 
CatmanV2

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Vampyrebat said:
The rarer the steak the better! I order or cook my steak 'blue'........ In fact I could quite easily take a bite out of a grazing cow!!
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I used to be like that. Then I learned how to cook them 'properly' (or better) and now rare is just perfect.

Still order them blue, though as most restaurants can't get it right :(
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CatmanV2 said:
I used to be like that. Then I learned how to cook them 'properly' (or better) and now rare is just perfect.

Still order them blue, though as most restaurants can't get it right :(
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I must admit when I lived with my folks all those years ago, I used to come down in the early hours of Sunday morning and drink the blood out of the tray the beef was thawed out on!! Then wondered why I had to keep going to the doctors complaining of having worms again!!!...... I have now learnt my lesson!
 
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We are dying from the day we are born, the Earth is dying from its beginning too. Yes we can probably stop or prolong that for some years by all going vegan, stopping commuting, stopping the quest for bettering ourselves, not wanting any sort of growth or progress and basically becoming very insular and self-dependent. If the World was an ideal place we would go back to our 70.s and 80's way of thinking, get an allotment and live life like we did back then (lovely days).

I think you have to say that as man progresses they ultimately get more and more dependent on fossil fuels and the big corporations who get rich from this really do ram it down our throats. I'd love to see how we all got on without fuel/energy for a couple of days (a week would probably cause rioting!) I think this post from Facebook summed up the way we have moved on from when I grew up and just shows how the thirst for convenience and ease has really upset the natural world and put a strain on marine life and the whole environment. We are undoubtedly at a tipping point but ask yourself realistically do you think that 99.9% of the World populous is willing to make changes that have become part of their everyday life and routine? I honestly think it's not about putting the facts out there which have been done so eloquently by the likes of Thunberg, Extinction Rebellion and Attenborough but more about changing people's mindsets and thinking behind the way we do what we do plus employers. Why do people who are not in the public servant style roles made to commute each day to the office? Why can't kids get on the bus each day like we used to and save all the extra cars/SUV's on the road, why do people want/need to fly around the World for their summer vacation when there are beautiful places to see at home? I'm all for travelling and seeing new cultures but every year? It's all about me me me and looking good etc.... and that's probably where social media comes in, people are so transfixed and obsessed with what others think that they have to have the latest gadget, car and best holiday to compete because otherwise, they would feel inferior. Do we think this is a generation thing and mindset?

Sorry for the long rant but it's just a different World now to when I grew up and I'm not even old (42).
 
MrMickS

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Simple solution to the problem. Reduce the population, at least try and cap population growth, and all of these problems suddenly go away.

Trump appears to have grasped this and is working on a radical de-population plan at the moment.
 
Vampyrebat

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CatmanV2 said:
Shouldn't really have got worms from that. And it's not blood, but...

EWWWWWWWWWW! :lol2:

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Doctors told me that the blood contained dormant eggs in it and when heated encouraged hatching??!!...... Anyway enough info to make me go 'Cold Turkey'......... Or should that be 'Warm'??!!
 
rockits

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Your not wrong Phil bit I think attitudes and habits will change but just taking longer that it needs to or should do.

It is all about trying to offer easier viable alternatives to make is easier for the lazier or more difficult to convince types to make changes.

We do need to reign in our modern propensity for convenience but to relieve the pressure at source as to why this exists. We all need more time to be able to worry less about it and slow down a bit. Maybe radical plans such as a 4 day week could possibly work and help start the domino effect. Once we resolve some issues at source then the positive and domino effects all start rolling in.

I don't have all the answers just as many of us don't. However I know that much of what we are doing is just not sustainable and it isn't far away when big irreversible changes won't be possible.

If a large percentage of the global population make some very small but achievable changes the total global changes and impact will be noticeable. The we start moving in the right direction.
 
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MrMickS said:
Simple solution to the problem. Reduce the population, at least try and cap population growth, and all of these problems suddenly go away.

Trump appears to have grasped this and is working on a radical de-population plan at the moment.
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Agreed Mick and I have said the exact same thing for a while. It doesn't make sense for anyone rich or poor to want or need 10 kids!
 
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