About to throw in the towel

drellis

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About to change my daily as my bangernomics of a daily is now supassed by an ev.
Daily is a 2002 e39 525msport touring. Have a touareg and qv5 for bigger stuff. Putting £250 a month in fuel, the tax , repairs etc. Looking at an i3 for about £20k on 5 year hp ( and getting the business to get it) . Annoyingly it looks far more cost effective to do this. Bangernomics is a dying breed.
 

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E39's are brilliant motors, great chassis and drive and one of the best cars BMW made imo, i have a 2002 525i M Sport, I would hang on to your E39 touring if in good condition and well maintained, classics now and the M Sports will only go up in value for good examples, E39 M5's have sky rocketed, classic car insurance as well
 

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About to change my daily as my bangernomics of a daily is now supassed by an ev.
Daily is a 2002 e39 525msport touring. Have a touareg and qv5 for bigger stuff. Putting £250 a month in fuel, the tax , repairs etc. Looking at an i3 for about £20k on 5 year hp ( and getting the business to get it) . Annoyingly it looks far more cost effective to do this. Bangernomics is a dying breed.

I am also thinking of a Polestar 2 as a daily drive company car as it will save me money but the more I look into the range I am now thinking it may not be the way to go. They say 299 miles but in real terms it’s between 170 and 210 depending on the weather and that would mean charging every two days with my commute to work. Work are getting electric chargers and if they do it may make sense.
 

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I am also thinking of a Polestar 2 as a daily drive company car as it will save me money but the more I look into the range I am now thinking it may not be the way to go. They say 299 miles but in real terms it’s between 170 and 210 depending on the weather and that would mean charging every two days with my commute to work. Work are getting electric chargers and if they do it may make sense.

There are a lot of incentives going EV.
My employer is introducing either a tesla/polestar tax incentive deal.
They need to sort out somehow the payment for "fuel" for business usage, when charging at home, as the current "wet fuel" method with business mileage tax reclaim is very good.
 

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I do love the way it drives but mine has 170000 on the clock is starting to eat parts and be a pain. In last few months needed alternator, window reg, few hoses , cam covers (which hasn't fully fixed leak). I really need a daily i don't need to think about as well.
Like a few on here I always sell just before they skyrocket. I had a last of line g reg 635csi that needed a£1000 to get it through an mot 10 years ago. I was too busy so got rid for £900....
 

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If I keep the e39 it will just sit outside and rot. Only other way is take it decent local bmw garage and let them get it up to spec then lpg it, but I'd probably be best part of 4k after that
 

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About to change my daily as my bangernomics of a daily is now supassed by an ev.
Daily is a 2002 e39 525msport touring. Have a touareg and qv5 for bigger stuff. Putting £250 a month in fuel, the tax , repairs etc. Looking at an i3 for about £20k on 5 year hp ( and getting the business to get it) . Annoyingly it looks far more cost effective to do this. Bangernomics is a dying breed.
This post struck a chord with me… my car is almost exactly the same as your wagon, but with the 3.0i lump. I’ve had it for 8 years and it’s easily the most reliable car I’ve ever had… but with 222k on the clock she’s showing her age. I’m expecting to pick her up from my specialist this week - don’t expect to see much change from a £1200 bill… reconditioned ABS control unit after a trio of warning lights and a pair of rear-suspension air bags.

Having a Mazzer has desensitised me to these costs, but it doesn’t change the fact that the latest bill is probably the value of the car… and north of my average yearly spend! There’s rust in all the usual places, but… it’s the best looking estate (in my opinion) ever made, drives beautifully and the engines good for another 100k. Yes it drinks oil, but it’s a part of the family and that straight six still sounds glorious - I can’t bring myself to trade in this old hound for an electric sausage dog.

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drellis

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This post struck a chord with me… my car is almost exactly the same as your wagon, but with the 3.0i lump. I’ve had it for 8 years and it’s easily the most reliable car I’ve ever had… but with 222k on the clock she’s showing her age. I’m expecting to pick her up from my specialist this week - don’t expect to see much change from a £1200 bill… reconditioned ABS control unit after a trio of warning lights and a pair of rear-suspension air bags.

Having a Mazzer has desensitised me to these costs, but it doesn’t change the fact that the latest bill is probably the value of the car… and north of my average yearly spend! There’s rust in all the usual places, but… it’s the best looking estate (in my opinion) ever made, drives beautifully and the engines good for another 100k. Yes it drinks oil, but it’s a part of the family and that straight six still sounds glorious - I can’t bring myself to trade in this old hound for an electric sausage dog.

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Also looking at getting driveway sorted and wife has noticed that the e39 drops alot of bodily fluids...
 

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I think the i3 In white has a whiff of bmw motorsport about it
 

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I ran a Kia Rio as my winter car alongside a 911
Bought it 6months old approved used for £10500, warranty up to 7 years old, sold at 8 years old for £3150.
Never had a warranty problem, it wasn’t too painfully slow.
There is still some bangernomics possible. It would have cost more to lease one.

kia dealer servicing was cheap as chips too.
 

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This post struck a chord with me… my car is almost exactly the same as your wagon, but with the 3.0i lump. I’ve had it for 8 years and it’s easily the most reliable car I’ve ever had… but with 222k on the clock she’s showing her age. I’m expecting to pick her up from my specialist this week - don’t expect to see much change from a £1200 bill… reconditioned ABS control unit after a trio of warning lights and a pair of rear-suspension air bags.

Having a Mazzer has desensitised me to these costs, but it doesn’t change the fact that the latest bill is probably the value of the car… and north of my average yearly spend! There’s rust in all the usual places, but… it’s the best looking estate (in my opinion) ever made, drives beautifully and the engines good for another 100k. Yes it drinks oil, but it’s a part of the family and that straight six still sounds glorious - I can’t bring myself to trade in this old hound for an electric sausage dog.

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oh - i just realised you sold the gransport! how come?
I thought qpv + gs made amazing garage combo.
 

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I agree up until quite recently bangernomics wondering, but the difference is cost of fuel vs charging up the ev at home overnight and the tax breaks for ev and Limited companies. Even a second had ev that I'm looking at for the company its 18% of the cost /value of the car each year, plus all expenses/repair/cleaning you'd get 19% off effectively, soon to be 25%, also no road tax.
And benefit in kind is only 2%.
So many people near me have bought big porsche ev brand new. As can write whole cost off against tax in first year. So if paid 100k for car, knock 100k of Limited company profits that year as far as I understand it
 

drellis

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This post struck a chord with me… my car is almost exactly the same as your wagon, but with the 3.0i lump. I’ve had it for 8 years and it’s easily the most reliable car I’ve ever had… but with 222k on the clock she’s showing her age. I’m expecting to pick her up from my specialist this week - don’t expect to see much change from a £1200 bill… reconditioned ABS control unit after a trio of warning lights and a pair of rear-suspension air bags.

Having a Mazzer has desensitised me to these costs, but it doesn’t change the fact that the latest bill is probably the value of the car… and north of my average yearly spend! There’s rust in all the usual places, but… it’s the best looking estate (in my opinion) ever made, drives beautifully and the engines good for another 100k. Yes it drinks oil, but it’s a part of the family and that straight six still sounds glorious - I can’t bring myself to trade in this old hound for an electric sausage dog.

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I've got quite quick at changing rear airbags, but last time the rear went , before I had chance to change them a front coil spring gave out In sympathy
 

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It's been a proper workhorse, used to tow and trailer , I'd not had it long and at last house loaded the rear up with a load of reclaimed Brick. In hindsight probably 300k at least, so I probably trashed the first lot airbags myself.
 

makeshiftUK

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oh - i just realised you sold the gransport! how come?
I thought qpv + gs made amazing garage combo.
Guilty as charged :( it was a very cool combo and I’ll miss the GS dearly, but my better half couldn’t gel with the CC box and I convinced myself pre-purchase that it would be driveable for her in auto mode. The purists would kill me of course, but it would have been a keeper had they built it with a ZF auto.
 

makeshiftUK

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It's been a proper workhorse, used to tow and trailer , I'd not had it long and at last house loaded the rear up with a load of reclaimed Brick. In hindsight probably 300k at least, so I probably trashed the first lot airbags myself.
Ours is a proper workhorse also… your driveway equation is different to mine in that I still need a ‘big’ car to transport stuff, whereas you have a Touareg already that can pick up from your 525i’s duties if needed. Let us know what you decide to do!