4.2 or 4.7

rivarama

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The days of owning a Ferrari or similar and being the fastest chap around are well and truly gone.. However the joyous days of driving in the countryside in this weather behind the glorious Fontana di Nettuno inspired Trident is and will always be ahead my friends.

That’s because you haven’t seen the 488 replacement yet... F8 tributo is 750bhp (you read that right :) 0-60 in 2.8sec, 0-100 is 7.3sec, top speed of 214mph.
That’s now within 1sec off current f1 car performance - insane or insane??
 
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Jake
I was in your position a couple of years ago.
I was in a position to buy a 4.2 auto and after several years of horrendous disc issues,
I felt like I deserved something to put a smile back on my chops.
I haven't driven a 4.7 yet and tbh, I'm not bothered. I will go to my local cowboy main dealer and take one out. Just for the fun of it.
I'm not well enough to do track days etc., so mine is strictly a weekend toy.
Random thoughts.
1. The speed limit is 70 mph. How much extra on top of that do you really need, to achieve the same fun factor.
2.Unless you're a mechanic, there's no cheap method of ownership.
You'll want to find an expert indy on your doorstep and he'll welcome you with open arms, cause you'll be helping send his kids to college. Budget a couple of thousand a year assuming nothing goes bang. Don't skimp on tyres, brakes etc
3. You're in a buyer's market, so if you do contemplate buying, haggle like a
Moroccan fishwife and until the seller starts to lose it.
As you hear here often, buy the best one you can.
Anything wrapped, greatly modified, or so offends the eyes, that a Glastonbury hippy
would squirm on seeing. Run away from, as fast as you can. Think resale.
6. Read through all the threads here, where guys have asked the same question as you.
That way you pick up every nugget of wisdom you can.
7. Be prepared to spend months hunting down the car that ticks all your boxes.
Or most of them. Don't be too concerned what stereo is fitted. You'll hardly ever
listen to it.
8. No matter what the seller tells or shows you, do your own HPI and other checks and
spend a few hundred on an expert PPI. It could be the best few hundred you ever spend.
9. If it's the Granturismo that flicks your switches, DO NOT BE TALKED INTO A
Quattroporte. We all have different passions. This is only about you.
10. Have a look at Harry Metcalf's review of an MC on YouTube. It's......informative.

If any of the above is redundant, or a 'collection of geriatric shoemakers', sincere
apologies. Like most others here, I would only wish you well, encourage you to
avoid the mistakes we made, so you can go off and make a whole new set of your
own ;) So long as the cost is only measured in low three figures, then it's all good.
 
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On the subject of Indys. Find out here, who the most trusted one is near you. Go and have a chat with him/them around the close of their day, after all the customer's have their cars back and let him put the word out amongst his customers. I guarantee you. Someone will be selling. Whether the car is what you're looking for, is another matter.
But, you get to know the guy that you'll be dipping into your Swiss numbered account for and you'll get to know a few local owners. If you get good vibes from the Indy and he's maintained the car, I reckon that his 'okay' is probably your best bet on avoiding a lemon, bar a forensic PPI. (correct me if I'm wrong guys)
 

Jake253

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On the subject of Indys. Find out here, who the most trusted one is near you. Go and have a chat with him/them around the close of their day, after all the customer's have their cars back and let him put the word out amongst his customers. I guarantee you. Someone will be selling. Whether the car is what you're looking for, is another matter.
But, you get to know the guy that you'll be dipping into your Swiss numbered account for and you'll get to know a few local owners. If you get good vibes from the Indy and he's maintained the car, I reckon that his 'okay' is probably your best bet on avoiding a lemon, bar a forensic PPI. (correct me if I'm wrong guys)
Sorry, but what do you mean by indy?
 
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Depending on your nearest main dealer, an Indy can be better by every measure that matters. Even when it comes down to what stamp you have in the service history.
 

conaero

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Jake, you also must be aware of running costs.

Don’t think buying a Maserati at a low price is going to cost you less. Many have been caught out.

They are very reliable but when things go wrong they are not cheap cars to fix.

Clutch on an MC will rob you of £3k as will variators.

Looking at you posts, I would say go for a better example of. 4.2 Auto which has had the variators done a pay a couple of grand more.

You be thankful in the long run.

Besides, if you get the Maserati bug, then you have the 4.7 to work up to later.
 

philw696

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Good advice there from Matt Mr Maserati himself.
I would hate to think how much I have spent on fuel in 10 years let alone others like Ewan :)
 

empzb

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You are almost there for a Sport 4.7 MC Shift at 25k. If you are lucky you might find one at 25k for a quick or distressed sale. Can't see you ever losing more than 5k on that.

I expect earlier higher miles lesser examples 4.2's to drop to a floor of 15k with better ones upwards.

If I were in the market I'd be trying for a 4.7 Sport MC shift at 25k if I could.

How does one go about getting them for 25k? Cheapest I've seen is 27k so even with a cheeky offer it's unlikely. Or am I just rubbish at negotiating a deal for traders.
 

Andyk

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You would be surprised what people will accept if their pride and joy doesn't sell. People aren't buying this type of car which can be seen in how long V8 cars etc are sat on Autotrader......Be cheeky....What's the worse that can happen..They say no......I watched one GTS recently start at 32k to end up at 26k ...... It took 6 months to sell.....
 

rockits

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Just make an offer and if not accepted walk away. Either the phone rings at some point in the future or it doesn't. There is plenty more fish in the see.

Some will be offended and some won't. It is never meant to be offensive. I offer what I feel is a fair price and certainly not derogatory. They can always say no. I'm not forcing the sale. Just making an offer to buy the car with no hassle and quickly.

I buy quite a few cars this way. Not because I'm horrible or harsh but I need to buy at the best price possible. If it is comfortably more than WBAC or EH you are providing a valued service to the seller.

The best cars will often sell quickly for the best prices sometimes not even hitting the market. Others can be all over the shop value wise.
 

Motorsport3

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So for the GT top gearbox choice seems to be the MC shift over ZF auto.

How come QPVs with Duo select which is essentially like the MC shift are not as much loved and popular pref seems to be ZF auto?
 

rockits

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Cos the DS isn't quite an MC Shift. The DS is the same as a CambioCorsa. The MC Shift is similar with single clutch design but with faster changes due to newer TCU/software.

Also many prefer the ZF in a QP due to the QP clientele mainly wanting an exec car more than a sports GT. Myself included....prefered the ZF auto I have on the Exec GT rather the DS.

However I do have the 4200 with CC t balance it

I can totally understand any QP owners that want and like the DS as an all in one device.
 

Sommi

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I reckon a DS with FD Dbw module is comparable to mc-shift. It might still be slightly slower but you will need to be a professional race driver to feel the difference.
 

dem maser

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The 4.2 is an older lump and the 4.7 sounds awesome.....if money wasnt a problem it’ll be 4.7 for me but if limited then C has a 4.2 with an aftermarket exhaust and that sounds good