3200 stuck starter motor

RSM Masser

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All mine did was click - rather loudly! The inside had just disintegrated. It looked fine until I stripped it apart, the insides just fell out. Do a google search get the Bosch part, from a Citroen, change the aluminium casting (3 torx head bolts) from the original and hey presto.
The motor was c£80 delivered next day.
Awkward to do rather than technically difficult. Change any suspect hoses whilst there especially the 4 short ones on the water manifold.
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davy83

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i fitted the Bosch part to my 3200 with the changes to the outer casting and its been great ever since (probably 6-7 years now), i am also not a fan of Valeo, not really an improvement over the OEM part in my mind.
 

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The original was a Valeo part but the new improved version which RSM and I fitted was the Bosch part referrer to above, if you look at the Project 3200 thread I mention where you can still buy the part.
 

mazamartin

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The original was a Valeo part but the new improved version which RSM and I fitted was the Bosch part referrer to above, if you look at the Project 3200 thread I mention where you can still buy the part.
any idea of the correct part number for a replacement starter motor i know the original is a d6ra64 valeo with 9 teeth unit but all the citroen/lancia/peugeot/vauxhall ones with the same body seem to have 10/11 teeth on the gear ring
 

mazamartin

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for some reason i,m struggling to create a new post but will attach it here and see?
Does any one know what starter motor can be fitted to a 3200gt auto as a replacement with the correct gear teeth? i,m aware that the original is a valeo D6RA64 and the body is the same fitting on a number of smaller cars peugeot citroen lancia vauxhall BMW Mitsubishi etc but they seem to have 10 and 11 teeth and not 9 on the Maserati one? Many years ago with my first 3200 it failed due to the normal magnets coming adrift from heat in the v of the engine as many do and jamming it. i remember with the help of my local uni-part dealer i managed to get one trade price at £36 plus vat but for the life of me cant remember what the part number or car it was from.
what i understand Bosch dont actually do a starter that is interchangeable with the Maserati nose piece so that limits it to a valeo or chinese one with the magnets clipped in the later of which i,d rather not use due to the knowledge of inferior quality components (not that valeo is much better) and looking inside one you can see the armature isnt built to the same standards
the concern is that i,m pretty sure over a period of time the 10 or 11 teeth model would not mesh correctly with the starter ring gear an therefore in future would possibly require changing?, that i,d like to avoid if at all possible
so with the 2 units i purchased set about swapping over the pinion drive gear and bodies etc but to no avail as the chinese one has a different pitch spiral and the other genuine valeo unit d6ra has a different drive spline on the armature with finer and less pronounced teeth as the original Maserati one
i understand that there are 0.9kw 1.1kw 1.3kw 1.4kw and 1.9 kw variants of the D6RA style but dont know which power the original one is rated at?
any advise on this would be appreciated
 

Zep

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hi zep many thanks for the link i have already found this thread but theres no mention of how many teeth are on the new starter seems no one has counted them just swapped over the nose for the maserati one?

I had a little look at the Bosch spec for the part in that thread.
 

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mazamartin

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By that do you mean changing the mounting over? or is there more to it than that?
Ta
having purchased a new one on the numbers given (with 9 teeth) there are 3 torx or 4mm allen keys and 1x T15 torx to remove the Peugeot/Citroen nose (the one that fits to the gearbox) and replace with the Maserati one its an easy diy job takes 2 mins to do but fitting it a little longer
 

alfatwo

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having purchased a new one on the numbers given (with 9 teeth) there are 3 torx or 4mm allen keys and 1x T15 torx to remove the Peugeot/Citroen nose (the one that fits to the gearbox) and replace with the Maserati one its an easy diy job takes 2 mins to do but fitting it a little longer
A lot longer!

Dave