3200 dash pad lock warning light

alfatwo

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Tried to start the old 3200 this afternoon, Its been in storage since last October
The battery voltage was low even with the conditioner connected

Cut a story short, went out and bought a new battery, the car started immediately, and everything works fine
Locking and unlocking on the key fob is normal but still have the padlock logo on the dash

Just wandering if trying to switch off the immobiliser with a nearly flat battery might have triggered a fault code

What do you recon!

Dave
 

allandwf

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Try a different key. Mine did this only once, started fine but the padlock symbol stayed, used another key and it cleared. Used the other key again and all fine. Possibly coincidence.
 

77GR

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Dave,

A common misconception. The alarm/central locking and the immobiliser (CODE) systems are entirely seperate systems - it's easy to get them confused though because they both live in the key itself.

The alarm is an active radio transmitter (the big circuit board) operated by the button on the key that disarms the alarm (electric detection, microwave sensors etc.). The immobiliser is a passive tiny RFID chip also in the key head, usually glued in near the key shank itself to allow it to be more easily detected by the short aerial within the ignition switch/barrel.

What it looks like is one of 2 things has happened.
  1. The CODE system has gone into "self test" mode which it does occasionally according to the manual and you simply take the key away from the ignition switch (I usually take it about 2m away to ensure full loss of RFID signal), wait a few seconds and take it back. However, you probably wouldn't be shouting for help here if that was the case sincve you probably tried something similar.
  2. The "pairing" between the chip in that particular key and the ECU (I think that means the main car ECU) has been lost. If that's the case then allandwf's suggestion of using another key will work until it either resets itself like it did for him or you can get that key "re-paired". Another alternative, if you don't have another key is the possibility that you have the grey CODE card which came with the car from new which has a 4 digit number on it to override the immobiliser in this situation, it's a somewhat convoluted series of steps involving turning the ignition on and off a lot of times with the 4 digit number involved in the counting. The sequence is in the car handbook and if you don't have a handbook then I or one of the other SM members will be able to relay the procedure to you.

If the "pairing" has been lost completely, it is possible to "re-pair" the RFID chip in that key using the mythical "Red Key". There is another sequence in the workshop manual (not the owner's manual) where the Red key is inserted first and then ALL existing keys in your possesion are re-identified to the ECU. This is the process used if a key is stolen where all of the keys in your posession are re-identified but of course the stolen key is NOT registered and hence no longer valid and it won't start the vehicle even if it can unlock the doors and de-activate the alarm. The Red Key does not have an alarm circuit board so cannot de-activate the alarm system but it does have a special RFID chip in it which will start the car and/or initiate the "pairing" sequence. The Red Key pairing sequence would certainly recover your key if the pairing has been lost.

Now if you have more more than one key that is problematic then there is an ECU problem and that is somewhat more serious obviously.

Come back to me if you need either the sequence for the CODE override (assuming you have the grey card number) or want the Red Key re-programming sequence.

I hope this helps.

Cheers
 

Tamariini

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The Red Key does not have an alarm circuit board so cannot de-activate the alarm system but it does have a special RFID chip in it which will start the car and/or initiate the "pairing" sequence. The Red Key pairing sequence would certainly recover your key if the pairing has been lost.

Not completely related to topic but i have three keys in my 3200 and i have been using just one. Other black key opens doors but will not start the car. I have not had enough courage to try red one because of its 'mythical' nature. How is this re-pairing done?
 

allandwf

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As long as it hasn't lost the wee chip internal to the key, as said above, you should be able to have three keys start the car :)
 

77GR

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Loz, that's the self test executing during running. Myself, I generally tend to see the self test execute at start up where the light stays on (along with "Check Engine" staying on) and won't start until I switch off, remove the key and then try again.
 

alfatwo

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Thanks for the info guys, I have all the three keys. I'll try the other black key next weekend and see what happens
The car starts perfectly so it cant be a pairing problem. I have a feeling it was caused by me trying to start the car with a nearly flat battery

Dave
 

Lozzer

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Thanks for the info guys, I have all the three keys. I'll try the other black key next weekend and see what happens
The car starts perfectly so it cant be a pairing problem. I have a feeling it was caused by me trying to start the car with a nearly flat battery

Dave
Don't worry about it Dave, just drive the bleeding thing will ya? Its what it was made for ;)
 

davy83

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My car also occasionally throws up the padlock sign and i have also found i just shut it dwo nad start again and it goes away, not done it recently though.

Mine does this once in a while , doesn't affect the way it drives or anything, just have the padlock symbol on the dash, a restart clears it.
 

CT3200GT

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My car also occasionally throws up the padlock sign and i have also found i just shut it dwo nad start again and it goes away, not done it recently though.
Mine does that from time to time, never affected starting or driving
 

Monaco73

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This was a lifesaver, thank you all. I went to start the car and had the padlock warning light (which I’ve never had), thought nothing off it but the car then turned over but would not start, much to the annoyance of my Wife who insisted I should sell it. However, after putting it in on the trickle charger for a few hours it started perfectly. My stupid fault for not having it on the charger for a few weeks and not using it enough. :)