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CatmanV2

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Traction and stability control, almost all systems use the rear brakes a lot. Pretty common for rears to wear much quicker than fronts if driven like a tool.

I suspect you'd have to drive like an utter dick to wear the rears out faster but I stand to be corrected

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MAF260

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You’d be surprised, modern stability systems are re@lly hard 0n the rears. Even daily driving.

I was very surprised when my daughter told me she had a rear brake pad wear warning on her Mini, it's less than 3 years old and done 18k. Sure enough the rears were worn sufficiently to need replacing; thankfully only £30 for the pads and wear sensor.
 

CatmanV2

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You’d be surprised, modern stability systems are re@lly hard 0n the rears. Even daily driving.

Well curious. Although I have to wince at the feral apostrophe ;)

Does the stability light come on every time the system is active? Just trying to judge my own driving where I've had the lights on probably <10 times in toto.

Yes, I may drive like Miss Daisy's chauffeur, or, alternatively don't exceed the capabilities of the vehicle in the public road ;)

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Oneball

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Well curious. Although I have to wince at the feral apostrophe ;)

Does the stability light come on every time the system is active? Just trying to judge my own driving where I've had the lights on probably <10 times in toto.

Yes, I may drive like Miss Daisy's chauffeur, or, alternatively don't exceed the capabilities of the vehicle in the public road ;)

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Light doesn’t always come on, especially in torque vectoring systems
 

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Wait a couple of months until Russia invades to get to access to the Baltic and it could be a bargain.


Another one of the 42 - very cool. And with the full headlamps fitted for endurance racing too - this one could even qualify for a full MOT here rather than just the daytime one like mine! It doesn't have the GT4 kit added though so there is no front splitter, rear wing or arch extensions
 

Oneball

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Will torque vectoring use the brakes though?

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Yes, when you see manufacturers talk about torque vectoring, e-diff, electronic diff, etc. It’s usually just a standard open diff with the brakes used to control how much torque each wheel gets. Some more expensive cars have actual diff control but most don’t. Even the majority of Land Rovers don’t actually have proper LSD or lockers with clutch packs anymore.

The torque vectoring is also used to control the chassis dynamics, improve turn in/steering response etc

Better description here
 

CatmanV2

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Yes, when you see manufacturers talk about torque vectoring, e-diff, electronic diff, etc. It’s usually just a standard open diff with the brakes used to control how much torque each wheel gets. Some more expensive cars have actual diff control but most don’t. Even the majority of Land Rovers don’t actually have proper LSD or lockers with clutch packs anymore.

The torque vectoring is also used to control the chassis dynamics, improve turn in/steering response etc

Better description here

Ta!

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azapa

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I'm pretty sure that most modern Maserati have a LSD. Should not be too much rear brake wear from the electronic control systems.
 

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It amazing how useless some systems are especially in the snow.

modern traction control in my Jag XJ cuts proper and applies the brakes so the car just bogs down and goes nowhere, same with my wife’s Vauxhall.

Firat think I do in the snow is turn the traction control off, it’s a bit counterintuitive but means you can spin the wheels up of needs be.