Cat D 2008 QP Sport GTS - would you buy and impact on value?

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Harvey_Tim said:
Hi Alan, thanks for the comments. I have been waying up the pros and cons of a QP V for last 6 months and am aware of and indeed somewhat frightened of the money pit aspects of these cars!. Have to say though 5k a year is somewhat more than I had imagined, I was anticipating more like 1-2k a year!

I don’t do many miles a year and it would be more of a fun / weekend car, although it would be kept outside permanently (how much of a problem is that ?).
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I had on 08 S and it cost me servicing and some rear bushes. 1-2k per year is optimistic. The major service is at least 1600+vat from memory. If you are lucky a minor service year will see you spend <2k if nothing breaks or you don't go mad and fix everything you see as below standard ie. Faded badges, oxidised wheel centres etc. If the variators need doing it's 3-4k alone.
 
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Everyone here speaks wise words. I must have spent £3k on maintenance in my first year of ownership and could have spent a lot more. (The oxidised wheel nuts will have to wait!). Make sure the subframe is sound, of course! Mine is kept outside (house was built in the 1950s when cars were half the size of the QPV, so there's no chance it will fit in the garage). I bought a bespoke car cover for it, but abandoned that after it kept shifting in even light winds. Personally, I think the problem with the QPV is that many people equate it to running a sporty saloon, but it's really like running a Ferrari with a four door body. It won't get the attention of a Ferrari, but it will get the costs. Having said that, I love mine ...they're addictive!!!
 
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Everyone here speaks wise words. I must have spent £3k on maintenance in my first year of ownership and could have spent a lot more. (The oxidised wheel nuts will have to wait!). Make sure the subframe is sound, of course! Mine is kept outside (house was built in the 1950s when cars were half the size of the QPV, so there's no chance it will fit in the garage). I bought a bespoke car cover for it, but abandoned that after it kept shifting in even light winds. Personally, I think the problem with the QPV is that many people equate it to running a sporty saloon, but it's really like running a Ferrari with a four door body. It won't get the attention of a Ferrari, but it will get the costs. Having said that, I love mine ...they're addictive!!!
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Make it loud. I always got attention with people turning around with mouths open.
 
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Everyone here speaks wise words. I must have spent £3k on maintenance in my first year of ownership and could have spent a lot more. (The oxidised wheel nuts will have to wait!). Make sure the subframe is sound, of course! Mine is kept outside (house was built in the 1950s when cars were half the size of the QPV, so there's no chance it will fit in the garage). I bought a bespoke car cover for it, but abandoned that after it kept shifting in even light winds. Personally, I think the problem with the QPV is that many people equate it to running a sporty saloon, but it's really like running a Ferrari with a four door body. It won't get the attention of a Ferrari, but it will get the costs. Having said that, I love mine ...they're addictive!!!
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Yep, totally agree. My 360 is and has been, cheaper to run than the GT. Fact.
 
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Thanks for all the information. It is quite eye opening, I thought I was coming into this as being fairly well informed having been looking at and to an extent researching the pros and cons of the QP V. I was never under the impression that it would be a cheap car to run as despite the potential cheap buy in price today they are still a £80k car to maintain … however some of the comments above are indeed a little scary !!!

Just to add, the interest in the cat d car was nothing to do with it potentially being cheap - i was originally unaware that it was cat d but it is a very nice spec.
 
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Out of interest … what tends to be worse for a QP V when it comes to problems occurring, constant use with mid to high mileage or irregular use with low miles - or does it really make no difference?
 
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Harvey_Tim said:
Thanks for all the information. It is quite eye opening, I thought I was coming into this as being fairly well informed having been looking at and to an extent researching the pros and cons of the QP V. I was never under the impression that it would be a cheap car to run as despite the potential cheap buy in price today they are still a £80k car to maintain … however some of the comments above are indeed a little scary !!!

Just to add, the interest in the cat d car was nothing to do with it potentially being cheap - i was originally unaware that it was cat d but it is a very nice spec.
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By giving you these realistic figures, we're trying to prevent you from getting divorced, or moving into the shed.

Getting back to your original post. I think the majority of us would advise you to steer clear of the CAT car, and instead find yourself the best example non CAT QP that fit's your budget.
 
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Gazcw said:
Make it loud. I always got attention with people turning around with mouths open.
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As it happens the QP V Sport GTS (cat d) I am looking at has had the mufflers replaced with a bespoke stainless straight pipe system although the original (black tipped) mufflers are included in the sale.
 
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Others may know better than me, but I feel that there is a sweet spot around 5k mile per year.
You will find threads here about battery chargers. I just drive mine and don't use a charger.
Oh, and try to avoid driving it when there is salt on the road - bad for underbody corrosion. I don't totally abstain from driving mine in the winter, I just intentionally drive it less.
 
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Grantoonriusmo said:
By giving you these realistic figures, we're trying to prevent you from getting divorced, or moving into the shed.

Getting back to your original post. I think the majority of us would advise you to steer clear of the CAT car, and instead find yourself the best example non CAT QP that fit's your budget.
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Yep I appreciate that absolutely and my head totally agrees with you … I just need to reign my heart (and my son) in to see reason - lol
 
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Interesting how many responses this thread has got (which I genuinely appreciate) whereas I also posted a second thread about potential costs of recomissioning another (non cat d) QP V which only has 48k but has not been used since 2018 and that has only has 1 response ….. although I appreciate all the comments re. maintenance cost are applicable to both cars.
 
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Alan Surrey said:
Others may know better than me, but I feel that there is a sweet spot around 5k mile per year.
You will find threads here about battery chargers. I just drive mine and don't use a charger.
Oh, and try to avoid driving it when there is salt on the road - bad for underbody corrosion. I don't totally abstain from driving mine in the winter, I just intentionally drive it less.
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Totally agree - I try to stick to the no MISS policy (no mud, ice, snow or salt). I aim to keep my QPV ticking over regularly and open up the valves when I do as these cars need to stretch their legs. That's my excuse anyway!
 
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Don't buy a cat car unless you plan on keeping it , any trade offer will be 50% of book , any potential buyers will assume it's been wrapped round a tree and repaired in a shed so will want to see pre accident photos , don't have them , you'll NEVER sell it .

You'll save nothing because the actual financial loss on the car will be greater than a non cat car , it's just the initial outlay that's less

I bought a cat C mercedes at a year old , when I sold it 4 years later the financial loss wasn't far off the PCP cost on a new one

If it was close to scrap money I'd consider it but otherwise no
 
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Mufflers? We're talking pounds sterling here, not US Dollars.
Does that make a difference at all?
@makeshiftUK has done a wonderful job of tracking the maintenance costs for his outdoor kept (and very lovely) QP which is about the age that might interest you. Perhaps he will share his understanding.

As Grantoon wrote a couple of posts ago, we're not trying to put you off. On the contrary we're delighted that you are approaching Maserati ownership so methodically and also, not withstanding that, you already appear to have fallen in love with one.
Excellent reaction!
We just want you to fall in love with your eyes open.
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Harvey_Tim

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Alan - consider my eyes opened, although not necessarily put off - just maybe of a cat d car!!!

All responses have been appreciated. I still feel that Maserati ownership is a itch that needs to be scratched, I just need to wait for the right car.
 
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