EV and advice from any users please!

mjheathcote

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Where’s the power coming from?
Like I said, I don't think powers the problem if people are charging off peak, its off peak because people are in bed sleeping/businesses and some industry are not consuming.
It won't however then be off peak and more expensive!
 

Wattie

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Like I said, I don't think powers the problem if people are charging off peak, its off peak because people are in bed sleeping/businesses and some industry are not consuming.
It won't however then be off peak and more expensive!
Power is the problem.
And infrastructure
And ownership
And control.
Its an agenda.

Covid proved they can implement it. The question is, will we all fall for it again.
 

Oneball

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I know, lets open a coal mine, pretend it's for making steel and then use it for making nice clean electricity
You can’t use that ****** coal in power stations in this country as it doesn’t burn clean enough. Can’t use it for steel here either. But Boris wanted it to hark back to the glory days of Empire to give the poor children in the north jobs. “Levelling up” but only up to serf level.
 

Wattie

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You can’t use that ** coal in power stations in this country as it doesn’t burn clean enough. Can’t use it for steel here either. But Boris wanted it to hark back to the glory days of Empire to give the poor children in the north jobs. “Levelling up” but only up to serf level.
Remind me how much coal China uses as part of the world?
Have they signed up to this bollock5?
 

Oneball

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Remind me how much coal China uses as part of the world?
Have they signed up to this bollock5?

Thats not the issue, it’s nothing to do with the environment. The problem is the coal from the proposed new mine in Whitehaven has too much sulphur content to use in steel making and too many impurities that affect burn to use in our coal fired power plants in the uk. It’s **** and both the steel industry and power generators don’t want it.
 

Wattie

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Thats not the issue, it’s nothing to do with the environment. The problem is the coal from the proposed new mine in Whitehaven has too much sulphur content to use in steel making and too many impurities that affect burn to use in our coal fired power plants in the uk. It’s **** and both the steel industry and power generators don’t want it.
Sell it to China then they don’t give a feck.
 

Tallman

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We have **** coal here in SA - it’s part of the problem re our power plants breaking down all the time. Too much sulphur in the coal and burning it with too little oxygen leads to excessive corrosion of the high pressure steam pipes which then keep on bursting, taking plants out of commission. In our case the corrupt coal sellers also add sand and rocks to boost their income (and buyers and inspectors look the other way) and that breaks the boilers..more taking out of commission and suppliers/repairers of boilers have a field day as well…we are operating on just over 40% of our capacity.

Adding more oxygen leads to the emission of excessive NO2 so it’s a very difficult one to solve - at least here. On your side they just don’t allow the **** coal to be used as the operational and environmental cost is just too high.

so be careful with using high sulphur coal
 

Alan Surrey

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That is an issue.
I don't think the issue is supply, as charging overnight when many industries are idle not using power, more the local existing distribution. Our supply a few yards from our house burnt out under the road. I don't think it would cope with the extra load if everyone was charging overnight, even if the supply was there.
Tick.
 

Wack61

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Very few people run an EV to save the planet, evpensive EVs are bought for the 2% BIK saving, cheap ones because of the illusion they're cheap to run even though they're mostly leased for £500 a month or on motability for trips to sainsbury's

Fast chargers are 75p per Kwh so a 40kw leaf would cost £30 for a max range of 149 miles which will be less in the winter so if you can't charge from home there's no saving over a diesel

I agree most could probably use an EV as a daily if they have off street parking but I don't want one until I'm forced into it which at my age will be never.
 

Ewan

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Yesterday Octopus put my night-time electricity tariff (as used to charge the E-Tron) up to 16p per KWh. Still, mustn’t grumble - it still means it’s way cheaper per mile than any of my petrol or diesel options. While also being quieter, smoother, better at overtaking, etc. But hey ho, each to their own.
 

mjheathcote

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Yesterday Octopus put my night-time electricity tariff (as used to charge the E-Tron) up to 16p per KWh. Still, mustn’t grumble - it still means it’s way cheaper per mile than any of my petrol or diesel options. While also being quieter, smoother, better at overtaking, etc. But hey ho, each to their own.

The work salary sacrifice EV scheme being sold and managed through Octopus is being sold at 10p per Kwh overnight charging.
They are certainly keen for customers, I'm getting loads of emails from them and a guy phoned me up yesterday, now that I've logged on and looked at the deals through the work portal.
 

Wack61

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Yesterday Octopus put my night-time electricity tariff (as used to charge the E-Tron) up to 16p per KWh. Still, mustn’t grumble - it still means it’s way cheaper per mile than any of my petrol or diesel options. While also being quieter, smoother, better at overtaking, etc. But hey ho, each to their own.

2% BIK as a company car?

I 100% understand someone running one as a company car, the savings are too great to ignore but a private owner leasing a tesla for £1000 a month is deluded if they think they're saving money because they can charge it up for £10.
 

Ewan

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2% BIK as a company car?

I 100% understand someone running one as a company car, the savings are too great to ignore but a private owner leasing a tesla for £1000 a month is deluded if they think they're saving money because they can charge it up for £10.
Yep. I agree with that. It’s that lovely Mr Sunak I thank for my E-Tron, rather than Audi.
 

gb-gta

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Wonder how many top end EV’s would be sold if the buying through buisness very uneven playing field against ICE cars was levelled up?
I guess some, but the drop off would be alarming I suspect.
 

Wack61

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Wonder how many top end EV’s would be sold if the buying through buisness very uneven playing field against ICE cars was levelled up?
I guess some, but the drop off would be alarming I suspect.
Whether it'll happen before the end of the internal combustion engine I don't know but a levelling up is coming, they can't be cheap ved and charging forever, too much money involved


EVs sell to the public because the perception is cheap to run, if they start charging by the mile instead of fuel duty and there's ved comparable to ICE sales will drop.