Which tires should I buy for my 4200?

TKoos

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I will buy new tires next spring and wonder what tires the rest of you are using for your 4200? Dimensions and brand/model would be much appreciated.
My original wheel as seen in the picture below.
Is it possible to the rim and wheelhouse to go for a 275 wide tire instead?

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davy83

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There are quite a few threads on this already, might be worth a search. I have tried a few, and i am running Good Year Eagle F1's at the moment, decent grip and good in the wet without being harsh on pot holes, probably not the ultimate tyre for a track or a smooth warm road, but good all rounders and reasonable price.
 

TKoos

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There are quite a few threads on this already, might be worth a search. I have tried a few, and i am running Good Year Eagle F1's at the moment, decent grip and good in the wet without being harsh on pot holes, probably not the ultimate tyre for a track or a smooth warm road, but good all rounders and reasonable price.
Thanks Davy!
I have searched but not really managed to find any answers to my question about wider tires.

When it comes to desirable strengths I rank them like this:
1: Wet grip and wet brake ability
2: Noise
3: Fuel economics
4: Price for the tires

Does it make any sense? :cool:
 

RobinL

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You would probably get away with 275 but not sure why you want to?
As grip is a factor of loading then although you may have more contact area the lighter loading per sq.cm may actually mean less grip overall.
Tyres with more grip is a better option.

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BennyD

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I run GoodYear F1 Assymetric 2s on my spyder and have always found them to be a decent tyre. However, my next set will be either Michelin Pilot Sport 4s or GoodYear F1 Assymetric 5s. Whatever you do, stay clear of Pirelli P Zero-grips. Garbage.
 

Twinspark

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I’ve always been a fan of Michelin so I’d go for PS4S. Seconded with BennyD that Pirellis are garbage. On other cars I’ve had switching from the P Zero to the PS4S was huge made the car feel like its AWD.

You can run 275 in the rears at least with the GS rims. I’m actually thinking of trying Continentals this time around.
 

mjheathcote

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Currently running a set of vredestein ultrac vorti on my 4200.
I do like Michelin tyres, and I run these on my BMW which are pilot supersports and are expensive. However compared to other cheaper brands the mileage I get out of them makes them great value for money, for the car is used daily for business.
With the limited mileage I do with the Maserati I couldn't justify the additional cost for Michelin, they would need changing before they are worn out due to age.
The vredestein certainly aren't a budget tyre, nor a premium purely because of the cost, but I can't certainly fault them for grip.
They have a very square side wall, so can look wider than they are.
I have 275/245 with my FD rims being wider than the stock wheels.
I don't think I would recommend wider tyres on the stock wheels.
 

philw696

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Here in Europe where we get better weather Pirelli work fine no complaints from me this side of the Channel.
 

RobinL

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I run GoodYear F1 Assymetric 2s on my spyder and have always found them to be a decent tyre. However, my next set will be either Michelin Pilot Sport 4s or GoodYear F1 Assymetric 5s. Whatever you do, stay clear of Pirelli P Zero-grips. Garbage.
You aren't wrong about P Zero. I got a 'deal price' on x 4 for my AMG CLS63. Rubbish grip and the rears have started cracking up after 10mths and 10k miles still got 7mm tread.


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When I got the Jaaag it had a less than half used set of P Zeros on, changed them very soon afterwards. I’ve since been in a DBS SuperLeggera and driven a PortoFino with P Zeros fitted and both fish tailed in a straight line on dry roads. The Trofeo Rs are supposed to be a lot better but I, for one, will never be fitting them.
 

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Currently running a set of vredestein ultrac vorti on my 4200.
I do like Michelin tyres, and I run these on my BMW which are pilot supersports and are expensive. However compared to other cheaper brands the mileage I get out of them makes them great value for money, for the car is used daily for business.
With the limited mileage I do with the Maserati I couldn't justify the additional cost for Michelin, they would need changing before they are worn out due to age.
The vredestein certainly aren't a budget tyre, nor a premium purely because of the cost, but I can't certainly fault them for grip.
They have a very square side wall, so can look wider than they are.
I have 275/245 with my FD rims being wider than the stock wheels.
I don't think I would recommend wider tyres on the stock wheels.

Price up Pilot Sport 4s and compare them to the Vreds. I don’t think there will be a lot of difference, especially if you get them from BlackCircles with 15% discount.
 

Twinspark

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Here in Europe where we get better weather Pirelli work fine no complaints from me this side of the Channel.
In the Middle East its often said that Pirellis dry rot pretty quickly and become hard.

I’m struggling to find the sizes here so thats why I’m going with either Continental. There are Nittos but thats more of a mid level brand and mostly popular with the muscle car crowd.

So in short I’d always go for Michelin if available, otherwise try the other high tier brands like Continental, Bridgestone or Goodyear. My personal opinion but with a car like this you should have a high quality tire(which Pirellis are not).
 

mjheathcote

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Price up Pilot Sport 4s and compare them to the Vreds. I don’t think there will be a lot of difference, especially if you get them from BlackCircles with 15% discount.

I usually buy from Camskill, the Michelins are approx third more expensive.
You can get the Vreds for less than £400 with delivery and Vat, which I think is VGVFM.
 

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Don’t buy Pzero or Vreds on a GS (better on 4200) due to the stiffened sidewall + pothole = split shoulder and repair not possible.

Mitch PS are best
GY Eagle F1 cheaper and almost as good

The above don’t have stiffened sidewalls so are more forgiving and massively improve the GS Sport mode teeth rattling crashing.
 

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I usually buy from Camskill, the Michelins are approx third more expensive.
You can get the Vreds for less than £400 with delivery and Vat, which I think is VGVFM.

Imo, the Michelin’s are worth every extra penny, but you go with what you think is the best compromise for you. I do.
 

mjheathcote

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Imo, the Michelin’s are worth every extra penny, but you go with what you think is the best compromise for you. I do.
I think if the pilot 4"s" was available at the time in 18", just over 2 years ago, i would pay the extra, but only the pilot 4 was available back then. Even now the 4s isn't available for the rear in 18" in the UK.
 

TKoos

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I think if the pilot 4"s" was available at the time in 18", just over 2 years ago, i would pay the extra, but only the pilot 4 was available back then. Even now the 4s isn't available for the rear in 18" in the UK.
Same in Sweden, 265/35r19 is all I can find here.
 

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