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Dan!

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You're right, it's not long. The older ones could go on for 20+ years, but they could end up being woefully inefficient.

New boilers these days just don't last as long. There's all kinds of reasons, from them not being made as well as they once were as a result of driving the price down, to potentially being incorrectly spec'd for the property and short cycling as a result, and installer workmanship, or lack of.
 
lifes2short

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Dan! said:
You're right, it's not long. The older ones could go on for 20+ years, but they could end up being woefully inefficient.

New boilers these days just don't last as long. There's all kinds of reasons, from them not being made as well as they once were as a result of driving the price down, to potentially being incorrectly spec'd for the property and short cycling as a result, and installer workmanship, or lack of.
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you do surprise me, i'm having a couple of vaillant boilers being fitted to new builds as we speak and they come with a 10 year manufacturer warranty, i think it all depends on quality of boiler chosen, i cant see why a new modern quality boiler that's fitted properly and maintained properly wouldn't last way in excess of 10 years
 
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As per my original answer, around 8 years could be 10 years ;)

Some will last longer some will last less time. There's no hard and fast answer, but it's certainly unlikely that they'll last 20+ years as the old ones used to.
 
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lifes2short said:
how are you finding that
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Good but you need to replace your radiators as well and get used to a different style of heating. Also hot water sometimes marginal (but you can always bang the immersion on). so I like the idea of the hybrid combi air source mentioned.

In summary, I would never go back to oil but if gas was available I would stick with that.
 
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I've have an ancient boiler - over 20 years old and still going strong. Always conflicted about replacing it. Just don't see the payback. When I've spoken to the plumber about condensing boilers he says they don't last because of rust due to the inherent moisture they produce. I'm if you pay for quality they should be less prone but still having to replace a boiler after 10 years - what's the cost vs savings.
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lifes2short

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Hurricane52 said:
I’ve got a woollen house coat and some silk thermals for when it gets really cold. Both have a 10 to 12 year lifespan if used frugally.

The kids still run around in shorts or pyjamas whatever the weather.
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as in the victorian days, i send my not so young wench to warm the bed up
 
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Our boiler here is oil fired and I couldn't even hazard a guess as to how old. Very old but still going strong.

Seems like most things that are new, cheaper built and don't last. The stuff we built years was built to last. Bring it all back as I would rather pay twice as much for something 3x better. However there just isn't often that option anymore.

To be replacing boilers every 8-10 is ridiculous.

Our house is circa 400 years old and wants knocking down in brutal reality if seeking a better/easier experience. However it would I am sure still be perfectly fine another 400 years if it wasn't.

Just like people they just don't seem to build stuff tough enough to last these days.
 
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schell70 said:
Just incase you were wondering on how to charge them all!!!

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And it's not even that cold at the moment - see how much we are pulling from Europe - and that's when the wind is blowing
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Then add the extra needed for all the energy conversion losses involved in getting that energy from the power station to the vehicles motor. You can't beat a generator strapped directly to the wheels for energy efficiency. Electric vehicles on mass ( if it ever happens ) will be the worst man made environmental disaster the planet has ever seen ! + the need for those lovely nukes ....

Let's go for V8 Hydrogen engines.
 
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philw696

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One of my neighbours just had one of these new HVAC systems here in the Mayenne France through EDF €16,000 his contribution was €8,000.
I'm just applying on a new scheme for a cost of €20,000 but my contribution will be €1
It's means tested and I have earnt bugger all this year and Ms French only started working in September.
Thing is I actually like my Riello Oil burner reminds me of being at the Airport.
 
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