Ghibli Primatist

zagatoes30 · Jan 31, 2020

Nayf said:
God I love this car.

Classic cars April 2005

Nayf · Jan 31, 2020

zagatoes30 said:
Classic cars April 2005

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Off to the storeroom. I may be some time.

zagatoes30 · Jan 31, 2020

Nayf said:
Off to the storeroom. I may be some time.

I have one of those, when we moved over here I brought over 20 plastic crates each holding 55 magazines

Nayf · Jan 31, 2020

zagatoes30 said:
I have one of those, when we moved over here I brought over 20 plastic crates each holding 55 magazines

I work in the same office as Classic Cars. I used to work on the mag from 2012-15/16.
Alas there wasn’t one in the storeroom...

bay · Sep 4, 2020

Maserati Ghibli 2.8V6 PRIMATIST

Nayf · Sep 4, 2020

bay said:
Maserati Ghibli 2.8V6 PRIMATIST

Yes please.
How many 2.8 V6 Primatists were made? IIRC only one with the interior colours reversed. Could be that this one is a 2.0 V6 and the site doesn’t recognise non 2.8 Ghiblis (IIRC aside from some Cups perhaps, Japan only got 2.8s)...

dickyb · Sep 5, 2020

Nayf said:
Yes please.
How many 2.8 V6 Primatists were made? IIRC only one with the interior colours reversed. Could be that this one is a 2.0 V6 and the site doesn’t recognise non 2.8 Ghiblis (IIRC aside from some Cups perhaps, Japan only got 2.8s)...

There were no 2.8 Primatists made. whole point of them was to celebrate the world speed record on water which used a marinised derivative of the Ghibli Cup engine which was a 2 litre.

The 2.8 litre car which has the reversed colour scheme was a special factory order in a similar colour scheme but it was not one of the official 35 or so factory Primatists made. That particular car was also specified with automatic transmission.

The Japanese car in question is a genuine Primatist and is therefore a 2 litre. You can tell this by looking at the cam covers, a 2 litre doesn’t have the engine size written on them whereas the 2.8 has 2800 written on them. That car is likely to be a Personal import as the Primatist was officially an Italian domestic market version. Officially 2 litre cars were not sold in Japan as the engine size was considered too small for a luxury/high performance car, hence the Japanese version of the Cup being a 2.8.

dickygrace · Sep 5, 2020

Love it, can’t see a price, my Japanese is non existent.

Nayf · Sep 5, 2020

dickyb said:
There were no 2.8 Primatists made. whole point of them was to celebrate the world speed record on water which used a marinised derivative of the Ghibli Cup engine which was a 2 litre.

The 2.8 litre car which has the reversed colour scheme was a special factory order in a similar colour scheme but it was not one of the official 35 or so factory Primatists made. That particular car was also specified with automatic transmission.

The Japanese car in question is a genuine Primatist and is therefore a 2 litre. You can tell this by looking at the cam covers, a 2 litre doesn’t have the engine size written on them whereas the 2.8 has 2800 written on them. That car is likely to be a Personal import as the Primatist was officially an Italian domestic market version. Officially 2 litre cars were not sold in Japan as the engine size was considered too small for a luxury/high performance car, hence the Japanese version of the Cup being a 2.8.

Thanks for the clarification - there are a few Cups in Japan that may or may not be 2.0-litres hence the confusion

Nayf · Sep 5, 2020

Alas it has already sold

Vast · Feb 13, 2021

cedfred said:
This model was created to celebrate the world km water speed record, set on 4th November 1996 on Lugano lake by the pilot * Cappellini on a carbon fibre boat powered by two litre Maserati engine, based on the Ghibli engine.

See the video on Youtube:

34 Ghibli Primatist have been sold between 1996 and 1997.
Basicali, this is a Ghibli 2 GT with following special features:

Main Characteristics:
The Ghibli 2 GT has the following characteristics:
Designer : Marcelo Gandini
Weight : 1.365t
Engine : V6 biturbo 2 liters
Power : 306 PS
Max speed : 260 km/h
0 to 100 km/h : 5.7
0 to 1 km : 25.5

Special features and available options:
View attachment 41272

Here are the known Primatist ZAM and locations:

ZAM Country Town Licence plate
ZAM336B0000361856 Romania
ZAM336B0000361863 Germany
ZAM336B0000361864 Turki
ZAM336B0000361862 Japan
ZAM336B0000361868 France
ZAM336B0000361876 France Chevreuse EJ 092 GG
ZAM336B0000361878 Japan
ZAM336B0000361884 Italia
ZAM336B0000361888 Russia Novosibirsk K176AX17Z
ZAM336B0000361896 England AS 408 DE
ZAM336B0000361901 Germany
Germany LM LC 3
Germany OF MO 54
Germany HX XP 111
Italia AR 647 TV
ZAM336B0000361954 Greece ZXK-5283

If you own a Primatist or now an owner, don't hesitate to send me any information to complete above list

Vast · Feb 13, 2021

cedfred said:
This model was created to celebrate the world km water speed record, set on 4th November 1996 on Lugano lake by the pilot * Cappellini on a carbon fibre boat powered by two litre Maserati engine, based on the Ghibli engine.

See the video on Youtube:

34 Ghibli Primatist have been sold between 1996 and 1997.
Basicali, this is a Ghibli 2 GT with following special features:

Main Characteristics:
The Ghibli 2 GT has the following characteristics:
Designer : Marcelo Gandini
Weight : 1.365t
Engine : V6 biturbo 2 liters
Power : 306 PS
Max speed : 260 km/h
0 to 100 km/h : 5.7
0 to 1 km : 25.5

Special features and available options:
View attachment 41272

Here are the known Primatist ZAM and locations:

ZAM Country Town Licence plate
ZAM336B0000361856 Romania
ZAM336B0000361863 Germany
ZAM336B0000361864 Turki
ZAM336B0000361862 Japan
ZAM336B0000361868 France
ZAM336B0000361876 France Chevreuse EJ 092 GG
ZAM336B0000361878 Japan
ZAM336B0000361884 Italia
ZAM336B0000361888 Russia Novosibirsk K176AX17Z
ZAM336B0000361896 England AS 408 DE
ZAM336B0000361901 Germany
Germany LM LC 3
Germany OF MO 54
Germany HX XP 111
Italia AR 647 TV
Greece ZXK-5283

If you own a Primatist or now an owner, don't hesitate to send me any information to complete above list

Here is the VIN for the last one in your list, based in Greece ZAM336B0000361954 - Registration number ZXK 5283, produced March 1998, ZAM336B00003619

Vast · Feb 13, 2021

...one of the last produced, if not the last one, I am the proud owner since 2009.

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Nayf · Aug 2, 2022

Is there still one in the UK? I’m looking for one for an Auto Italia photoshoot…

zagatoes30 · Aug 3, 2022

There was the one from the Classic Cars article but that was over 15 years ago (how time flies it seems like only a year or two ago)

Nayf · Aug 10, 2022

zagatoes30 said:
There was the one from the Classic Cars article but that was over 15 years ago (how time flies it seems like only a year or two ago)

Has anyone heard of Cedfred? I've dropped him a PM but if anyone knows him personally it would be great to have the entire set of Ghibli IIs for what I have planned...

dickyb · Aug 10, 2022

Nayf said:
Has anyone heard of Cedfred? I've dropped him a PM but if anyone knows him personally it would be great to have the entire set of Ghibli IIs for what I have planned...

He lives in France and regularly frequents this French language forum:

Maseratitude - Page d’accueil

Nayf · Aug 10, 2022

dickyb said:
He lives in France and regularly frequents this French language forum:

Maseratitude - Page d’accueil

Ah, I’ve a feeling that’s where the car now resides then, being LHD.
Unless there’s another British car out there

dickyb · Aug 10, 2022

Nayf said:
Ah, I’ve a feeling that’s where the car now resides then, being LHD.
Unless there’s another British car out there

Cedfred bought his car in Hungary, it had never been in the U.K. The car that is (or was) in the U.K. is chassis #1896, it was imported to the U.K. in around 2000 and always retained its Italian registration number AS 408 DE, the last owner I am aware of was Philip Beale

ZAM	Country	Town	Licence plate
ZAM336B0000361856	Romania
ZAM336B0000361863	Germany
ZAM336B0000361864	Turki
ZAM336B0000361862	Japan
ZAM336B0000361868	France
ZAM336B0000361876	France	Chevreuse	EJ 092 GG
ZAM336B0000361878	Japan
ZAM336B0000361884	Italia
ZAM336B0000361888	Russia	Novosibirsk	K176AX17Z
ZAM336B0000361896	England		AS 408 DE
ZAM336B0000361901	Germany
	Germany		LM LC 3
	Germany		OF MO 54
	Germany		HX XP 111
	Italia		AR 647 TV
ZAM336B0000361954	Greece		ZXK-5283

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