Biturbo clock confusion - help appreciated!

HaydnW

HaydnW

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Hello everyone,

This is my first post on this forum, so I'll provide a short introduction before I ask for help. My name is Haydn, I'm 23 years old and I've been involved with Alfa Romeos for as long as I can remember - we've had them in the family since I was a baby. I currently own 3 Alfas - A 1991 164 3.0 Cloverleaf, a 1994 164 3.5 Q4, and a 1995 145 1.6. I enjoy working on them, in fact both my 164s were bought as non-runners (projects) and I've learned a lot through fixing these cars up myself. Both my parents have Alfas too, including a couple of classics. It was only a matter of time before I moved into ownership of another Italian marque, so earlier this year I bought my next project, which is a 1992 RHD Maserati 222 4V. It's another non-runner (gulp!) but appears to be in solid condition, has only covered 56k miles and was repainted around 2012 so the paintwork is mostly very nice with a few small exceptions. I haven't started work on it just yet as I'm sorting out a couple of my Alfas so that I can sell them and release some extra funds, but you can expect to see more posts from me in the future.

So, my question: Maserati clocks. My car unfortunately came without the dashboard clock so I've been keeping an eye out for a replacement, but I'm not really sure what the correct version is as there seems to be lots of different part numbers. I do know that LHD and RHD clocks are differently angled towards the driver but aside from that I'm not sure which one I need - Cartier? Lasalle? Part numbers? So hopefully somebody on here can help!

Thanks in advance,
Haydn
 
Ewan

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They never were made by Cartier - it's the Lasalle one you want. You'll be able to get one from David Askew (Google David Askew Maserati Parts and his site will come up). Easy.
 
HaydnW

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Thanks for the quick reply Ewan.
I've heard good things about David Askew so I'll get in touch with him at some point. I could try McGrath too. So is there no specific version for the 222 4V? I'm sure I read somewhere that some have a backlight (when the headlights are switched on for example) and some don't. Given my lack of knowledge however I'm happy to be corrected.

I narrowly missed out on the bidding on this one the day before yesterday as I was attending a local Italian car show. I was happy to take a chance on it being the right one, but was pipped to the post as it were:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152107635293?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
 
Ewan

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You do need a backlit one, otherwise you can't see it at night. They are lit by pressing a button on the dash, but instead, I had mine wired so that it automatically came on when I turned on the car headlights.
 
dickyb

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As suggested above try David Askew, you could also try McGrath Maserati as they often have Biturbo clocks in stock. Eurospares have just got a Ghibli in for breaking which would have something suitable.

Is that the blue car from Cornwall? I was going to have a look at that one but just couldn't find the time to make the trip. As i'm sure you know the 222 4v is a very rare car in RHD, 13 built as far as I remember & I only know of one other in the UK. As requested above, please can we have some pics? :)
 
mjheathcote

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HaydnW said:
I narrowly missed out on the bidding on this one the day before yesterday as I was attending a local Italian car show.
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Welcome.
As you list your location as Leeds, Newby Hall on Sunday?
The majority of Maserati's at the show were SportsMaserati members.
 
HaydnW

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GeoffCapes said:
I think you need to add some pictures of your 222!
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MrPea said:
Seconded!
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I'll attach some pictures to the end of this post :)

Ewan said:
You do need a backlit one, otherwise you can't see it at night. They are lit by pressing a button on the dash, but instead, I had mine wired so that it automatically came on when I turned on the car headlights.
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Ah that's good to know, thank you.

dickyb said:
As suggested above try David Askew, you could also try McGrath Maserati as they often have Biturbo clocks in stock. Eurospares have just got a Ghibli in for breaking which would have something suitable.

Is that the blue car from Cornwall? I was going to have a look at that one but just couldn't find the time to make the trip. As i'm sure you know the 222 4v is a very rare car in RHD, 13 built as far as I remember & I only know of one other in the UK. As requested above, please can we have some pics? :)
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Thanks for the recommendations, I forgot about Eurospares too. I think I'll start with Mr Askew as he seems to have a very good reputation.

As for the car, yes it's the blue car from Cornwall. It was no easy trip for myself if I'm honest - 6 hours each way accompanied by my old man, with a car transporter that claimed to be a 3.5 diesel but felt like a 1.2 (even without a car on the back!). My own research suggests 13 is indeed how many RHD cars were made, and I think I'm right in saying the other UK RHD 4V is a red one? I've had a passing interest in Biturbos for a while and late last summer I decided I wanted to own one. I have a thing for 'boxy' shaped cars, not really sure why haha. I didn't originally intend to go for a 4V, mainly because I figured they would be far out of budget even if I could find one, but this one popped up for sale and as soon as I saw it I knew it was the one. I also wanted a car that was solid but needed a bit of fettling, and this car fits the bill nicely. All I need to do is get it running...how hard can that be? (Famous last words!).

StuartW said:
David certainly has plenty of biturbo bits in stock, his email is david@davidaskew.co.uk
Good luck
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Thanks very much!
mjheathcote said:
Welcome.
As you list your location as Leeds, Newby Hall on Sunday?
The majority of Maserati's at the show were SportsMaserati members.
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That's right, it was a good day all round with perfect weather. I spent some time looking round the Maseratis, very nice indeed. I was there with my dad in amongst the Alfas - I took my Alfa 145 while he took his Alfa Montreal.

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Rather like that! - know what you mean about "boxy" well done - I hope you can get it going without too much heart (and wallet) ache
I'll follow your progress with interest
Eb
 
Doohickey

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HaydnW said:
I was there with my dad in amongst the Alfas - I took my Alfa 145 while he took his Alfa Montreal.
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The Montreal was gorgeous - I've always loved them. The 222 is quite special as well.

Look forward to meeting you somewhere.
 
ZAM400209

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Hey Haydn,

Well done- that is terrific. I'm sure it's all going to work out.

What can you tell us about the non-running..?
 
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