GS Prices

conaero

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Really... I find slightly mine tail happy and all too eager to loose traction...

Tyres and setup. When they are on the right rubber (Goodyear Eagle F1 or Michelins) all you should experience is some understeer on track into hairpins.

Also classic waggy tail is a symptom of failed lower wishbone tie rod rose joints.
 

Corranga

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Your right Al, if you fitted slightly stiffer springs,19inch rims with lower profile tires on a regular 4200 it would be the same

Ferrari were just tarting up the last of the line old 4200's they had in stock, Bits of bling and stuff, its normal procedure for manufacturers when a model line ends!

Dave


Slightly 'stiffer springs' with the same part number ;)

The wheel alignment is slightly different, the car is lower by 10mm, and despite the bigger wheels I'm pretty sure the rolling radius is reduced (perhaps just on the front? Can't quite remember).
I'd be interested to know if the larger GranSport wheels are lighter than the 4200 (normal or facelift) wheels as I'd have thought that would make some difference to the handling too.

I suspect that to the average driver like most of us here, the driving difference between a GranSport and a 4200, especially a late 4200, is most probably about as noticeable as the aero effect of the surf boards...
Visually, well, that's a different story.

The blue car looks lovely, but I wonder if it's 1 owner since import.
 

whereskeith

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Tyres and setup. When they are on the right rubber (Goodyear Eagle F1 or Michelins) all you should experience is some understeer on track into hairpins.

Also classic waggy tail is a symptom of failed lower wishbone tie rod rose joints.

The tyres are not great , when I purchased it , it still had its original tyres on as it had hardly been used and had 14k kms, they original tyres weredry and cracked so part of the purchase deal was new tyres. The guy put on basic P zero and I have never been fully confident with them.
Dont think the tie rods would fail on mine, but how would I check easily ?
 

Gp79

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The tyres are not great , when I purchased it , it still had its original tyres on as it had hardly been used and had 14k kms, they original tyres weredry and cracked so part of the purchase deal was new tyres. The guy put on basic P zero and I have never been fully confident with them.
Dont think the tie rods would fail on mine, but how would I check easily ?

Get the rear wheels off the ground then check for play at the 9 and 3 o clock position. Should be zero play.

If you feel and get an assistant to waggle the wheel while you feel each joint.
On mine I could actually see slight movement in the tie rod bearing.

Just the bearings can be easily and cheaply swapped out on only the tie rods.
 

Nayf

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£2k per year for a Granspor assuming nothing goes pop????....

£2k per year to run a Gransport assuming nothing goes pop?..... Are you including MOT, Insurance and Road Tax in that figure? Who needs £2k per annum to maintain a Gransport?
That’s the figure I was advised to budget a year when I asked specialists for the features I’ve written on them.
 

whereskeith

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Get the rear wheels off the ground then check for play at the 9 and 3 o clock position. Should be zero play.

If you feel and get an assistant to waggle the wheel while you feel each joint.
On mine I could actually see slight movement in the tie rod bearing.

Just the bearings can be easily and cheaply swapped out on only the tie rods.

Thanks Greg, hope you are well.
 

rockits

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Your right Al, if you fitted slightly stiffer springs,19inch rims with lower profile tires on a regular 4200 it would be the same

Ferrari were just tarting up the last of the line old 4200's they had in stock, Bits of bling and stuff, its normal procedure for manufacturers when a model line ends!

Dave
Seems to big misconception that the Gransport was a replacement to the 4200. The 4200 model years were from 2002 to 2007. The Gransport model years were from 2005 to 2007

They ran in parallel it seemed for the last 2 years. You could buy a 4200 or a Gransport. The Gransport was touted with a slightly sportier edge to it.

My 2007 4200 has been dropped slightly to GS spec, has the GS 19's but I preferred the lack of side boards & 4200 interior. I would prefer the GS seats however though.

I never did quite understand how the supposed extra 10k was arrived at for a GS over a 4200 though? That 10k difference seems to still be in place between the two in the uses market which is quite rare I would say.
 

TimR

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Seems to big misconception that the Gransport was a replacement to the 4200. The 4200 model years were from 2002 to 2007. The Gransport model years were from 2005 to 2007

They ran in parallel it seemed for the last 2 years. You could buy a 4200 or a Gransport. The Gransport was touted with a slightly sportier edge to it.

My 2007 4200 has been dropped slightly to GS spec, has the GS 19's but I preferred the lack of side boards & 4200 interior. I would prefer the GS seats however though.

I never did quite understand how the supposed extra 10k was arrived at for a GS over a 4200 though? That 10k difference seems to still be in place between the two in the uses market which is quite rare I would say.

Thing for me is, I was never going to hawk out for a flappy paddle/ smg/auto boxed motor.
I’m not a fan of the GS sills either.. a facelift too far for my taste

My 4200 can get pretty wayward handling wise frankly - although it seems better in Sport with MSP off !
I’m not a typical car buyer & can’t pretend money is no object ...! :)
 

rockits

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Maybe the extra 10 grand were for the posh new front seats;)

Dave
You may well be right. I guess we will never know.

The valved exhaust must add a bit then a few dollops of carbon fibre. I suppose the alloys would have been a couple of K extra. It soon mounts up I suppose.