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Andyk

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Love Mclarens.....wouldn't have anything Italian over a 570 GT or 570 S. A 570S Spyder is for me the best looking convertible you can buy new...The 12c I drove was just mind blowing and never found it clinical at all like most say. Servicing is a tad expensive though.
 

drellis

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Not driven any macca , and I'm sure they drive better than any Italian. However, the ones near me don't sound great imho and they don't have the presence. So I'd take a murcielago over any macca ( nice to dream)
 

BuckRog64

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Whilst I might choose a 458 for its soul over the McLaren's clinical approach, the 12C is awfully tempting at comfortably under £90k for an early car with few miles on it.

Annual servicing appears to alternate between c.£1,200 and £1,800. I googled McLaren Service Centres and was pleased to see it listed my local Formula 1 Autocentre, so that should save a few quid!

I'm rather tempted to go have a look at this one, which appears to have had the early car issues fixed;

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classi...ation=at_cars&make=MCLAREN&radius=1500&page=1
 

Andyk

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Love that one Pete. Lots seem to have had all the upgrades that McLaren dis after the first year including the extra power. That's what I liked about them. They fixed the issues that the early cars had and gave the model extra power and offered the extra power to anyone who had one of the early cars for free. How many other manufactures would do that. 12C looks better these days than when it came out for me. Looks said it looked dull when came out against the Ferrari trinkets but it's aged well because of it....
 

Andyk

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Whilst I might choose a 458 for its soul over the McLaren's clinical approach, the 12C is awfully tempting at comfortably under £90k for an early car with few miles on it.

Annual servicing appears to alternate between c.£1,200 and £1,800. I googled McLaren Service Centres and was pleased to see it listed my local Formula 1 Autocentre, so that should save a few quid!

I'm rather tempted to go have a look at this one, which appears to have had the early car issues fixed;

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807278869227?sort=price-asc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&postcode=tn61fj&advertising-location=at_cars&make=MCLAREN&radius=1500&page=1


While I get that the servicing is not cheap that isn't as much as I thought it would be. Surely most Ferraris/Lambos are the same or more ?
 

mjheathcote

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Whilst I might choose a 458 for its soul over the McLaren's clinical approach, the 12C is awfully tempting at comfortably under £90k for an early car with few miles on it.

Annual servicing appears to alternate between c.£1,200 and £1,800. I googled McLaren Service Centres and was pleased to see it listed my local Formula 1 Autocentre, so that should save a few quid!

I'm rather tempted to go have a look at this one, which appears to have had the early car issues fixed;

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201807278869227?sort=price-asc&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=New&postcode=tn61fj&advertising-location=at_cars&make=MCLAREN&radius=1500&page=1

I must say, that does look nice and i'm not really a McLaren fan.
It would be a good daily driver!!
 

zagatoes30

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Not a fan of white but that is lovely, don't need to worry about servicing as I could never afford to buy one - but we can dream
 

allandwf

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Love Mclarens.....wouldn't have anything Italian over a 570 GT or 570 S. A 570S Spyder is for me the best looking convertible you can buy new...The 12c I drove was just mind blowing and never found it clinical at all like most say. Servicing is a tad expensive though.
There were plenty at Knockhill at the weekend, probably around a dozen or so including a Senna. Every company needs a Halo car ;)
 

philw696

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I had a Mk1 Golf 1600 GTi that I owned and used for Special Stage Rallying for a 20 year period.
Fantastic simple and pretty tough on gravel and tarmac.
Apart from being stripped out I was running twin 40 Weber Carbs and rear disc brakes with adjustable bias.
Had 112 BHP from the 8 valve motor and so reliable putting many smiles on faces for what it could do.
Would certainly have another :)
 

Corranga

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Ah, the old mx5 argument. No corner of the Internet is safe ;)

That's a lovely example. I'm no fan of the NB styling, but appreciate a nice thing. Reminds me a little of when we bought my wife's vx220 with 7.5k on the clock.

As for the mx5 being good or not, Erica had a pair of NAs. Both 1.8, an i and an is. The is had power steering, and some mazda speed visual goodies to brighten up the interior. They are the perfect British sports car, the right size, just about enough performance, great roof and always there when you need them. I loved them and thought it was a great looking car too.
I used it as my daily when my Elise was away for 6 months for an engine rebuild.
 

safrane

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I had an Audi 100 CS back in the early 90s... It was the most reliable car I ever had as it never had a fault ever.

It was a rare run out model with lots of 200 body parts and lights.
 

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Contigo

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The latest from Hagerty’s UK Price Guide (HPG) is good news for Mazda MX-5 owners, as the small Japanese sports car has been the UK’s fastest appreciating classic car since April 2018. First and second generation MX-5 owners will undoubtedly be beaming at the news.

As a whole, the classic car market in the UK has grown by 1.07% since April, with over half (52%) of all tracked vehicles rising in value, which is impressive stuff. When you consider the famed economic theory on ‘the market for lemons’, then it likely means that buyers are becoming more certain of the quality of cars they’re buying, or the quality itself is increasing. To create as representative set of data as possible, the HGP’s Classic Index focuses on the 50 most popular UK classics.


The top risers include the second generation Mazda MX-5 1.6i at a staggering 8.5% increase in price, and Italian classics Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato 1.6 and Fiat 500 F at 5.0% and 4.3% apiece. What these cars share in common is their practicality compared to more high-market vehicles, and often go for prices the everyday motorist could afford.

There’s a greater variety in the cars increasing in value by smaller amounts, with the Aston Martin DBS Vantage gaining in price by 1.6%, and the VW Beetle 1200 and MGB-GT V8 up by 0.9% and 0.4%.



https://www.autoclassics.com/posts/news/maxda-mx-5-uk-fastest-appreciating-classic

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zagatoes30

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Generally modern classics are cars you lusted after when you were younger and now can afford to buy, Porsche 944, Sierra Cossie, Audi Quattro etc. not Japanese copies of poor British convertibles, but heh what do I know. I will stick to my low spec Italians with engineering a head of the curve and character in bundles
 

BennyD

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You chaps are quite tough on Mclarens. Maybe rightly so (and maybe explains their price). I must say though that I had another bash in a 650s at the weekend and it is simply amazing. I have also driven the 458 and 488, which a great cars too, but the way the Maca manages to tootle around, and then produce warp speed, is just amazing. It's not the horsepower - the thing has 500lbft of torque....

No likers out there?

Not for me. The whistling sound you hear when they pass isn’t the turbos, it’s their depreciation. Also, no dealer network over the channel, mixed with unreliability is a recipe for disaster. Also, to get rid of one, it needs a MacLaren warranty and that’ll cost from £6k per year to maintain. The problem with MacLaren is the fact they are bringing out a new model every 10 minutes and no one seems sure which one is best. The road testers say the 570S is the sweet spot but the 540 is the same car with only 30bhp less. Is the new 600LT better than the 675 LT? All great cars but potential financial suicide if you get a wrong un.