Busso 2.0 V6 Turbo

lisknik

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Right guys.

As them who have me on facebook know, I have a interesting problem. Love my white 2.5 V6, don't want to sell but want more power. Then today I find I may have the possibilty of getting a 2.0 V6 turbo unit from the same age GTV.

Been offered the engine and box for £750.

Opinions please fella's do I turn my rare white 156 into a V6 turbo?? :)
 

allandwf

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Should give you around 50 hp more? Plus a different power delivery. Would make for an interesting car. Surely a 3.0 has the same power output ? these can be had for £400 to £500.
 

lisknik

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Should give you around 50 hp more? Plus a different power delivery. Would make for an interesting car. Surely a 3.0 has the same power output ? these can be had for £400 to £500.

A little bit more for a good one, and it's been done before ;) I like to be different. 50 hp more is a bit more than I thought, I am sat at 196 bhp now.
 

allandwf

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Ah I thought the 2.0 V6 gave out around 200, and the 2.5 NA around 160. Maybe not much gain in your case. Still be interesting though.
 

conaero

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Buy the turbo engine but keep your engine. Swap all the turbo bits over onto the 2.5 and voila!

2.5v6 turbo should push out about 275/300hp once tuned.

The blocks are the same you see (2.0T/2.5/3.0/3.2), I knew a guy called Fabio who did this to a 3L GTV and it took the GTA's apart.

That way you don't have to remove the engine.

You may need bigger injectors and you will need all the intercoolers and associated pipe work.
 

allandwf

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Buy the turbo engine but keep your engine. Swap all the turbo bits over onto the 2.5 and voila!

2.5v6 turbo should push out about 275/300hp once tuned.

The blocks are the same you see (2.0T/2.5/3.0/3.2), I knew a guy called Fabio who did this to a 3L GTV and it took the GTA's apart.

That way you don't have to remove the engine.

You may need bigger injectors and you will need all the intercoolers and associated pipe work.

Now that sounds like a plan!
 

StuartW

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Buy the turbo engine but keep your engine. Swap all the turbo bits over onto the 2.5 and voila!

2.5v6 turbo should push out about 275/300hp once tuned.

The blocks are the same you see (2.0T/2.5/3.0/3.2), I knew a guy called Fabio who did this to a 3L GTV and it took the GTA's apart.

That way you don't have to remove the engine.

You may need bigger injectors and you will need all the intercoolers and associated pipe work.

That does sound special! I assume you would need to uprate the clutch too, not to mention the brakes but would be well worth it
 

Andyk

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Buy the turbo engine but keep your engine. Swap all the turbo bits over onto the 2.5 and voila!

2.5v6 turbo should push out about 275/300hp once tuned.

The blocks are the same you see (2.0T/2.5/3.0/3.2), I knew a guy called Fabio who did this to a 3L GTV and it took the GTA's apart.

That way you don't have to remove the engine.

You may need bigger injectors and you will need all the intercoolers and associated pipe work.

Will that front wheel drive Alfa take 300 bhp Matt.....Torque steer city surely.
 

allandwf

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Now that's interesting. I'm looking for a front bumper for a V6, that looks similar, and a bonnet, plus a few other bits and bobs.
 

lisknik

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Now that's interesting. I'm looking for a front bumper for a V6, that looks similar, and a bonnet, plus a few other bits and bobs.

We best get Matt to buy it for the forum then hehehe ;) I would get the whole car, but getting it to Bristol..........
 

dickyb

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Be careful with swapping the turbo parts to your original engine, it is possible in theory but the 2.0 turbo runs a lower compression ratio than your n/a unit and your original engine might not last very long. It is possible to run low levels of boost on high compression engines but you do need to be careful, its quite complex but it all relates to Effective Compression Ratio. If I were you I'd drop the 2.0 in and depending on your budget you could remap it for around 20% more power than standard, or fit a different turbo, bigger intercooler etc etc. It all starts to get quite expensive but you certainly get more bang for your buck with tuning turbo engines.
 

conaero

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Well I have spoken to Duncan on this, unfortunately the 2.0 V6 Turbo is a twelve valve. Would mean swopping wiring looms, ecu's etc etc.

This is the engine in question - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301801293417?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Think it is too much, as the 156 is my daily driver tbh :(


Stop being a pooosay and get on with it, it will be fine. The 3L took it fine, it will be no problem for your 2.5

If it goes bang just chuck a 3l in, job done!

Ps. I have been in the pub all night, can you tell???
 
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sounds like a project where you buy a 156 snotter and then the engine. White 156 preserved and you have an interesting track day car. Bang on a Q2 diff and what the torque steer evaporate (not)
 

zagatoes30

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Jamie Porter use to have a 2.0 V6 Turbo GTV as a loaner. I borrowed it once and it was interesting having both torque and that awesome turbo rush.

He was going to change the the engine for a 3.0 turbo, oh and then add 4WD never sure how far he got with it.