3200 OBD scanner, which one does indeed work on a end-of-2000 car?

Robbe

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Hi All,
My 3200 is a transitional OBD car (october 2000), with the wider OBD2 connector, but as far as I have understood, the old protocols and not really OBD2.
I have 2 different code readers (one 50 euro other 125 euro) that I have connected to the OBD2 16 pin connector, but both readers fail to connect.
Tried with ignition on, off and engine running.
But no connection. (why?)
On my 355 I can use both scanners with the help of a Fiat OBD to OBD2 cable ( 3 to 16 pins for the scanner).
So both scanners are compatible with rare Italian Ecu's. (Not that it really matters).
I guess I will have to buy a third scanner, but one that is proven to work on the 3200 with the 16 pin connector.
Maybe a simple bluetooth scanner?
Anybody recently bought one that works, and still is available? I found some old links on the internet to ELM327 chip bluetooth scanners on Ebay, but links were dead.
Thanks!
 

alfatwo

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Robbe, I think your car is too early for OBD2, it was only on the last few 2001 cars onwards

The cars fitted with the aux air pump system, there were Euro 3

Dave
 

Trev Latter

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Robbe. I have a late 2000 model with the 16 pin plug but not obd2. I have a similar WiFi unit to This one which does connect although it’s a little slow. The key thing to look for is KWP protocol that connects at 5 baud and you should be good to go. It hooks up fine with iPhone/iPad using EOBD-FACILE -Facile app, but with limited capability due to not being full EOBD.
 

MRichards

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FWIW my Foxwell NT510 Pro instrument does not talk to my August 2000 build car even with the Fiat/Lancia cable. My technician uses a Leonardo analyser which has worked well.
 

Robbe

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Thanks all for responding.
My car is indeed too early for real OBDII, but has the 16 pin connector unfortunately.
Unfortunately, as I have OBD 1 on my F355, and on that car the same scanners works when combined with the 16 to 3 pin Fiat cable. And now that cable cannot be used because it is no 3 pin but 16...

Good tip, KWP 5 baud by the way, makes searching a bit more easy. And I will look into that one on Ebay! Thanks!
 

allandwf

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My cheap and cheerful reader scrolls through four or five protocols until it find one that replies. I don't need to stipulate which one to use.
 

urquattrogus

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Sorry, to Add, mine was a sept 2001, Full OBD, sorry to mislead.

I think maybe with some you can use the adapter cable and the KWP 2000 protocol etc
 

Robbe

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As far as I know and said above, , the protocol is the ISO 9141-2, and strangely enough my Autel 519 supports that. But does not connect.
I can't find any other low baud rate other than the 9141-2...
 

Superhuman2805

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Hi all dose any one know of anyone in Sydney nsw who has a SD2 scanner my cel light came on and I need to get it scanned to see what is problem with my 3200 gt
Thanks all


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Chris Eggleton

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Hi All,
My 3200 is a transitional OBD car (october 2000), with the wider OBD2 connector, but as far as I have understood, the old protocols and not really OBD2.
I have 2 different code readers (one 50 euro other 125 euro) that I have connected to the OBD2 16 pin connector, but both readers fail to connect.
Tried with ignition on, off and engine running.
But no connection. (why?)
On my 355 I can use both scanners with the help of a Fiat OBD to OBD2 cable ( 3 to 16 pins for the scanner).
So both scanners are compatible with rare Italian Ecu's. (Not that it really matters).
I guess I will have to buy a third scanner, but one that is proven to work on the 3200 with the 16 pin connector.
Maybe a simple bluetooth scanner?
Anybody recently bought one that works, and still is available? I found some old links on the internet to ELM327 chip bluetooth scanners on Ebay, but links were dead.
Thanks!
Robbe I have the same problem.
My Maserati 3200GT is a late model 2000 year, with the 16 pin plug. I have used:
a. An expensive Vident iLink 400Au single car scanner, and
b. A cheap CAN OBD2 code reader with multiple car application, with both failing to connect.
Both readers are advertised as compatible with the 3200GT, but as we have found out there are at least 3 variants of the ECU setup to overcome, including the earlier 3 pin connector. I have previously had connectivity with a multi car scanner when in Darwin, the workshop there connected the scanner and used a generic OBD2 selection to connect to the Maserati , and it worked fine, even to the point of isolating the problem to a coil.
I have started fault finding the car based on advice about power and earth measurements on the 16 pin plug and on the Vident website, suspecting I may have an ECU problem but my manual doesn't appear to support the 16pin connector (I can't find the 16 pin DLC connector anywhere in the connector diagrams in the Electrical section). The car starts no problem but with the CEL on it is in 'limp mode' and undriveable. Both scanners are working as I connected them to my girlfriends Hyundai Getz: no problem chats away quite happily.
I'm pressing on but it is extremely frustrating not knowing whether the problem is the car or the scanner.
 

MRichards

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Hi Chris, I have found that the usual power off trick works to reset the ECU when in limp mode. Simply disconnect the positive lead from the battery & leave overnight. On reconnection the car will go through a self-checking routine & CEL light should not appear. The car should not be in limp mode,however,if you have a real problem,not just a computer glitch,the car will go into limp mode at the next restart.

Is your car fitted with a Bluetooth phone ? If so,I have a possible fix for your limp mode.
 

Chris Eggleton

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Good morning MRichards,
Many thanks for your advice, I will certainly give the overnight isolation a try, I have previously only disconneted the battery for 10 minutes or so, pressed the brake pedal to discharge residual capacitance, and then reconnected: unfortunately that version of "power of,master clear" didn't work.
I am not sure if I have a bluetooth connector on my car, I'm assuming there would be something in the users manual on it which I will certainly check after I get off the inetrnet.
Apropos, there is quite a good article on the internet called "What to do if the OBDII scanner doesn't communicate with the vehicle", and I have measured the voltages and earth resistances as per that technical bulletin. Following the fault finding thread, would lead me to suspect I have lost the earth connection from the DLC ECU:
a. the trouble is as I can't find the DLC on my Electrical Diagrams in the Maserati Technical Manual I can't locate the ECU and thus the earth connection. Having said all that I am extremely suspicious that I have lost an earth connection as no changes or major maintenance has been done on the car since I drove to Newcastle from Canberra.
 

Chris Eggleton

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Hit return!........Anyway, I will give your reset a try, and report back. Still it would be really beneficial to be able to talk to the car.. I'll check the Bluetooth route now. Many thanks, Chris
 

Chris Eggleton

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Ok everyone, SITREP. I have the Unidiag software loaded on my Laptop, a VAG KKL USB/16 Pin DLC connector. Loaded up and plugged into my (now confirmed) Series 2 3200GT ECU setup car. Alerts were: "isn't specified, and Can't find the .def file. Any advice welcome. Cheers Chris.